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Self-intersecting loft / sweep

piotr_smektałapiotr_smektała Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
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Is it possible to create such a geometry using sweep / loft function in Onshape?


Using such a set of sketches:


I can't figure out how to do that.
Am I missing something or that is a big flaw in functionality?

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  • paul_chastellpaul_chastell Onshape Employees Posts: 130 image
    The specific issue in this particular case is that Onshape is trying to make a single path and it is that which is crossing itself and Onshape doesn't like that but Onshape will be happy with the final result. As Neil says, by sweeping with two sweeps using two paths that are not crossing each other you can achieve that result. See https://cad.onshape.com/documents/b2724ca437fdb4b7ea41abb3/w/266674bfc17c15439f8fe4d7/e/d7b17eb691374acf4f80888b
    Paul Chastell
    TVP, Onshape Labs
  • paul_chastellpaul_chastell Onshape Employees Posts: 130 image

    Paul Chastell
    TVP, Onshape Labs
  • piotr_smektałapiotr_smektała Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    Well, Neil's answer says everything :-(
    Just an inherited property of the geometry modeling kernel.

    Model presented by me was just an example of a problem.
    It is pretty easy to create such a geometry using two consecutive sweeps.

    What I was thinking to use OS for, was something like this (this is a simplified example also):


    And in this case I'll have to use 3 sweeps and 5 sketches (2 of them (circular intersections) with dimensions calculated in advance) to create one solid body, instead of just 3 sketches and start/end diameters.

    Well, it's just not as simple in OS as in other tools.

    P.S. Well, tried to create such 3s 5s trick in the meantime and no success so far ;-(

  • owen_sparksowen_sparks Member, Developers Posts: 2,660 PRO
    Could that be use case for a featurescript that splits your sweep path into many "micro-paths", executes "micro-sweeps" on each in turn and then Booleans it together at the end?

    Could possibly test for fail condition and say double the number of segments as see if it passes then?

    Owen S. 
    Business Systems and Configuration Controller
    HWM-Water Ltd
  • paul_chastellpaul_chastell Onshape Employees Posts: 130 image
    I threw this together at lunch but I'm not happy sharing the document yet. Still, it is possible. The key is that the body can self-intersect as long as the faces don't. Hence the two lofts, one for the 'left' and 'right' forming a single solid part.

    Paul Chastell
    TVP, Onshape Labs
  • MBartlett21MBartlett21 Member, OS Professional, Developers Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2019
    @piotr_smektała
    See https://cad.onshape.com/documents/990065be862441f76bbd90eb/w/29b6322a1e8e7dab00dbdf74/e/ab266ba0e372b4d738118cf3

    It is just one sweep
    mb - draftsman - also FS author: View FeatureScripts
    IR for AS/NZS 1100
  • piotr_smektałapiotr_smektała Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    Paul, ... I can see the light ahead.
    Tricky, smart, maybe not applicable to more complex models but really encouraging to experiment with.
    Thank you so much for this remark about  body/face difference.
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