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Need help creating these facets in the face of a cylinder..

jcw74801
jcw74801 Member Posts: 10 ✭
edited November 2022 in Community Support
I wish to create facets into the face of a cylinder like the attached image. The part is one half of an adjustable clamp. I do not have enough experience with CAD to decide which processes to use. Can someone help get me started?

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  • mahir
    mahir Member, Developers Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Umm, there's no attached image.
  • jcw74801
    jcw74801 Member Posts: 10 ✭

  • jcw74801
    jcw74801 Member Posts: 10 ✭
    Ok, hopefully I have successfully added the image...
  • steve_shubin
    steve_shubin Member Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2022 Answer ✓
    @jcw74801

    Hwere is one way

    https://cad.onshape.com/documents/aa9ec76c8565bb88b43a9f93/w/5579493ab30142b7c439532c/e/274f60d24ac83f9cdaad1f48



    THE LOFT IS BELOW






  • mahir
    mahir Member, Developers Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Answer ✓
    Here's another similar method using a drafted extrude which I think is a bit simpler to implement.

    https://cad.onshape.com/documents/d0938c7c1f9f53a416882d38/w/0a898b62540088ea0fc73660/e/37342172147b102dc15901b1

  • jcw74801
    jcw74801 Member Posts: 10 ✭
    Thank you Steve, this is wonderful. This was far beyond my skill level. I will learn a great deal from this example.
  • jcw74801
    jcw74801 Member Posts: 10 ✭
    Thank you Mahir!
  • steve_shubin
    steve_shubin Member Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2022
    @jcw74801

    I like Mahir’s way. Definitely simpler.

    Be aware that there are differences in the models

    Mahir’s facets are planar (edit - typo correction of planer to planar)

    The ones I did are not planar

    In my case, the entire flow line at the valley is on the XY plane. Something I thought I was possibly seeing in the picture, where the V’s at each end of the groove were the same depth

    But Mahir’s way is slick. Very nice!


  • S1mon
    S1mon Member Posts: 4,588 PRO
    I haven't dug into the models, but a couple thoughts:
    1. Planar facets are going to be easier to inspect and tool. If something doesn't need to be complicated, don't make it so.
    2. You'll need to check how the mating part works. I'd have to think for a while about how to make sure that you get all the angled faces theoretically contacting fully. In reality, nothing will be perfect and stuff will contact at points and lines and wear in, but nominally you probably want to start with flat contacts. It's probably best to create the mating part in the same part studio. 
    3. Is the angle of contact right for your application? Too shallow and it will be easier to wear and turn when you don't want it to. Too steep and it won't ratchet very well.
    4. Depending on cycle life, wear might be an issue. If you can, use dissimilar materials for the two parts so that they wear less.

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  • jcw74801
    jcw74801 Member Posts: 10 ✭
    Steve, I did notice the differences and I think either way would work with my project. I am going to use Mahir's approach for its simplicity. I did learn several helpful techniques from your process. Thanks again for your input :)
  • jcw74801
    jcw74801 Member Posts: 10 ✭
    Thanks for your input S1mon. This part will be 3D printed for personal use. I can print prototypes as needed until I get the fit and strength needed. I won't need fine precision with the mating surfaces as there won't be much stress on the clamp. The clamp will rarely need to be adjusted so wear of the mating surfaces won't be a concern.

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