What's the process if I need to edit an Inserted part?

joshtargo

Sometimes I Insert a part and need to modify it, for example cutting it shorter. 

Do I need to Derive that part into my own part studio?

Can that be done from the assembly instance of the part, or do I need to search for it with the Derive feature?

Also, is there any way to change the Name or Appearance of Inserted parts without any physical modifications?

dirk_van_der_vaart

Since you are having an EDU account I don,t want to spoil your day but this is what your teacher can find in your document, in Onshape every document has unlimited history, also importing parts and even Part studio's.

glen_dewsbury

There is no need to export and import. Derived uses existing OS parts. See part studio 2. If your part is an import then it will have an OS part name.
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/44ebd861ddb9841558cc30c8/w/27ecba75d1d4ef9ee3244364/e/8250c1ccf25596adff0f0d22

joshtargo

glen_dewsbury said:

There is no need to export and import. Derived uses existing OS parts. See part studio 2. If your part is an import then it will have an OS part name.
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/44ebd861ddb9841558cc30c8/w/27ecba75d1d4ef9ee3244364/e/8250c1ccf25596adff0f0d22

Sorry, I meant an Inserted part, I edited the original post to reflect my new questions.

matthew_stacy

@josh_targo, can you provide an example of a derived part and the modifications that you intend to make?  Onshape has a decent suite of "direct editing" tools like "Move Face" that may suit your purpose.

Where did the derived part/s originate?  Is this native Onshape geometry (parametric, feature based solid models) or "dumb solids" like a STEP file?

joshtargo

matthew_stacy said:

@josh_targo, can you provide an example of a derived part and the modifications that you intend to make?  Onshape has a decent suite of "direct editing" tools like "Move Face" that may suit your purpose.

Where did the derived part/s originate?  Is this native Onshape geometry (parametric, feature based solid models) or "dumb solids" like a STEP file?

Sorry, I think I meant an Inserted part.

dirk_van_der_vaart

So back to your original question,  you insert a part in an Assembly and want to edit that part.

Go back to the Part Studio and edit your part there.

Also remember that parts that have a relation to each other , put both parts in the same Part studio

joshtargo

dirk_van_der_vaart said:

So back to your original question,  you insert a part in an Assembly and want to edit that part.

Go back to the Part Studio and edit your part there.

Also remember that parts that have a relation to each other , put both parts in the same Part studio

The part isn't in my part studio, it's some else's part.

glen_dewsbury

Here is a sample of deriving a part from another document.
A derived part can be modified to suit your different requirements.
Very useful to make other bolt patterns or to suit machining of castings and the like.
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/850adf21db9fda20bc67ee6f/w/d472803dbdf1b0468df1a3b0/e/61418a45404db9f9e1edb3f5

joshtargo

glen_dewsbury said:

Here is a sample of deriving a part from another document.
A derived part can be modified to suit your different requirements.
Very useful to make other bolt patterns or to suit machining of castings and the like.
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/850adf21db9fda20bc67ee6f/w/d472803dbdf1b0468df1a3b0/e/61418a45404db9f9e1edb3f5

Is there way to derive a part into a part studio from an assembly?

Sometimes I Insert someone else's part into an assembly only to discover later that I need to modify it. I would like to be able to select a part in an assembly and click "Derive into Part Studio" rather than going to a part studio, clicking derive, and then finding the part I need again. Is this possible?

Also, is it possible to change the appearance of someone else's part that has been Inserted into my assembly?

rick_randall

josh_targo said:

glen_dewsbury said:

Here is a sample of deriving a part from another document.
A derived part can be modified to suit your different requirements.
Very useful to make other bolt patterns or to suit machining of castings and the like.
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/850adf21db9fda20bc67ee6f/w/d472803dbdf1b0468df1a3b0/e/61418a45404db9f9e1edb3f5

Is there way to derive a part into a part studio from an assembly?

Sometimes I Insert someone else's part into an assembly only to discover later that I need to modify it. I would like to be able to select a part in an assembly and click "Derive into Part Studio" rather than going to a part studio, clicking derive, and then finding the part I need again. Is this possible?

Also, is it possible to change the appearance of someone else's part that has been Inserted into my assembly?

Josh, If you are deriving someone else's work that you don't have edit permissions for -I think the short answer to all three questions is no. Just my opinion and maybe others could find a solution for you.    Good luck.

joshtargo

rick_randall said:

josh_targo said:

glen_dewsbury said:

Here is a sample of deriving a part from another document.
A derived part can be modified to suit your different requirements.
Very useful to make other bolt patterns or to suit machining of castings and the like.
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/850adf21db9fda20bc67ee6f/w/d472803dbdf1b0468df1a3b0/e/61418a45404db9f9e1edb3f5

Is there way to derive a part into a part studio from an assembly?

Sometimes I Insert someone else's part into an assembly only to discover later that I need to modify it. I would like to be able to select a part in an assembly and click "Derive into Part Studio" rather than going to a part studio, clicking derive, and then finding the part I need again. Is this possible?

Also, is it possible to change the appearance of someone else's part that has been Inserted into my assembly?

Josh, If you are deriving someone else's work that you don't have edit permissions for -I think the short answer to all three questions is no. Just my opinion and maybe others could find a solution for you.    Good luck.

I can go to a part studio and derive it and then edit it, but I was asking if there's a way to do this from an assembly, for a part that I already Inserted.

nick_papageorge073

josh_targo said:

I can go to a part studio and derive it and then edit it, but I was asking if there's a way to do this from an assembly, for a part that I already Inserted.

Yes. You create a part studio in-context from the assembly. Then once in the studio, you select "transform" > "copy in place" and pick the part. That will make an exact copy that you can then modify as you see fit.

All that said, that's quite convoluted. I'd probably make a copy of the original part studio from your classmate, and modify it as needed, since it would be mine at that point. It will be completely independent of the original.

joshtargo

nick_papageorge073 said:

josh_targo said:

I can go to a part studio and derive it and then edit it, but I was asking if there's a way to do this from an assembly, for a part that I already Inserted.

Yes. You create a part studio in-context from the assembly. Then once in the studio, you select "transform" > "copy in place" and pick the part. That will make an exact copy that you can then modify as you see fit.

All that said, that's quite convoluted. I'd probably make a copy of the original part studio from your classmate, and modify it as needed, since it would be mine at that point. It will be completely independent of the original.

The parts aren't from a classmate, they are from publicly available documents that belong to strangers.

dirk_van_der_vaart

If you want to copy parts from Public documents, then copy the Part studio from that document to your document and insert it in your Assembly.
If you are in your Assembly and want to edit that part, RMB and select Switch to Part studio .........

joshtargo

dirk_van_der_vaart said:

If you want to copy parts from Public documents, then copy the Part studio from that document to your document and insert it in your Assembly.
If you are in your Assembly and want to edit that part, RMB and select Switch to Part studio .........

I'll try this when I get home. I want to see how I can most easily put that part into my studio for editing.

nick_papageorge073

josh_targo said:

dirk_van_der_vaart said:

If you want to copy parts from Public documents, then copy the Part studio from that document to your document and insert it in your Assembly.
If you are in your Assembly and want to edit that part, RMB and select Switch to Part studio .........

I'll try this when I get home. I want to see how I can most easily put that part into my studio for editing.

The way Dirk said is 100% the way for a random public document from someone that is not a part of your team.

joshtargo

nick_papageorge073 said:

josh_targo said:

dirk_van_der_vaart said:

If you want to copy parts from Public documents, then copy the Part studio from that document to your document and insert it in your Assembly.
If you are in your Assembly and want to edit that part, RMB and select Switch to Part studio .........

I'll try this when I get home. I want to see how I can most easily put that part into my studio for editing.

The way Dirk said is 100% the way for a random public document from someone that is not a part of your team.

What's the quick way to copy someone else's part studio into my document? I don't think I ever saw it. I had been deriving their part if I need to edit it.

nick_papageorge073

This will be there for all the free accounts. Will not be there for edu or paid accounts (unless the owner turns it on).

dirk_van_der_vaart

Since you are having an EDU account I don,t want to spoil your day but this is what your teacher can find in your document, in Onshape every document has unlimited history, also importing parts and even Part studio's.

joshtargo

It's ok, I'm just a mentor for a high school robotics team.

dirk_van_der_vaart

Ok , I have learned alot  by copying the workspace from somebody and then use the rollback bar to figure out how they did it

joshtargo

I should encourage the kids on the team to do that.