Derive picking up wrong version of part.

frank_paynter

Document: 57mm twist-lock cap pill dispenser | Pill Dispenser (onshape.com)

I have designed a pill bottle dispenser assembly comprising three parts - a bottle locking ring, a body, and slide for dispensing various size pills. The 'body' and 'slide' are in one parts tab and the locking ring is in another.  a screenshot of the entire assembly is shown in the attached image.

I want to use the slide part (shown with 'V3' engraving above) in another document, so I opened the new document, selected 'derive' and pointed it at the above source document. However, when I execute the derive and the part drops into the new document, it isn't the part I was looking for - it is a much earlier version (and yes, I know the 'V' numbers are misleading) with completely different dimensions and markings, as shown below:




I have tried to make this work by selecting the document from the menu, and I have also tried using the URL of the source document, and both methods result in the wrong slide version being copied over.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?

eric_pesty

I'm guessing you haven't created a new version in the source document based on the hint: "243 changes since last version" in the derive dialogue above... and the July 6 date of the V5 version. 

ronda_rosay

frank_paynter said:

Document: 57mm twist-lock cap pill dispenser | Pill Dispenser (onshape.com)

I have designed a pill bottle dispenser assembly comprising three parts - a bottle locking ring, a body, and slide for dispensing various size pills. The 'body' and 'slide' are in one parts tab and the locking ring is in another.  a screenshot of the entire assembly is shown in the attached image.

I want to use the slide part (shown with 'V3' engraving above) in another document, so I opened the new document, selected 'derive' and pointed it at the above source document. However, when I execute the derive and the part drops into the new document, it isn't the part I was looking for - it is a much earlier version (and yes, I know the 'V' numbers are misleading) with completely different dimensions and markings, as shown below:




I have tried to make this work by selecting the document from the menu, and I have also tried using the URL of the source document, and both methods result in the wrong slide version being copied over.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?

It sounds like you might be deriving from an older version of the document. Ensure you're pointing to the latest version or specific version history of the slide part when using the 'derive' function. 

Jed_Yeiser

Hey @frank_paynter
I just took a look, and the issue is exactly what @eric_pesty mentions above. The latest VERSION of your document is V5. You've made many changes to the document since that time. If you want to derive from your Main branch, you can do so within the same document (select Main as the version to derive from rather than V5). To derive all the changes you've made in the 'Main' branch into another document, simply create a new version (V6?). Once a new version is available, it is available for a Derive. 

Deriving from Main can cause more problems than it solves. By deriving from a specific version, you ensure that the derived geometry stays static (until you update the version you're deriving from!) no matter what you're doing in Main.

rick_randall

frank_paynter ,  When On shape asks you, If you want to make a new version,I have found that it's almost always a good idea to say yes. Now there may be isolated cases where this isn't true, but day in day out, I would recommend you do so. Just my personal opinion, and I'm willing to listen to any argument to the contrary.