Internet requirements

GWS50

I am working on a new project in a new location and have been asked by the IT department what are the minimum requirements to run Onshape, i.e. down and upload speeds?
When the network here is busy I can be waiting a while to open documents and to design using Onshape. Any help would be much appreciated.

Paul_J_Premakumar

@GWS50 ,
It isn't easy to give a specific download / upload speed, because there are a lot of variables, for example the size of the document and more importantly latency.
This thread has a lot of information : https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9021/internet-performance-and-onshape .
One suggestion would be to test out the performance under different network conditions and see what works for you. I use Google Chrome to do this. Here is more information : https://helpdeskgeek.com/networking/simulate-slow-internet-connection-testing/
Paul

owen_sparks

Can't you just license Stadia's "negative latency"?

GWS50

owen_sparks said:

Can't you just license Stadia's "negative latency"?

No idea! I'll investigate

GWS50

Thanks for the links Paul

Paul_J_Premakumar

owen_sparks said:

Can't you just license Stadia's "negative latency"?

That wasn't a term, I was familiar with. On reading up, it was interesting. On advantage that games / movies have over us is the fact that the data that needs to be sent is precomputed and can be cached. Also for a given situation, the list of next moves can be predicted to some degree.
We certainly cache a lot of data/state to make things as fast as possible. However our list of next moves is infinite. That said, it would be really cool (to me at least), if we could predict a CAD designers next move  

owen_sparks

@Paul_J_Premakumar Yes, it's an interesting topic isn't it?  I like what Stadia are doing, I just wish they hadn't used such a blatantly misleading term to describe the genuinely clever methods they're building. 

If you could develop Onshape to predict where our next features needs to be and pre-render a bunch of options then I think you could take a small vacation for a few days...

Cheers, Owen S.

rune_thorsen229

Has onshape updates increased data requirements ? 
Since I have to work on mobile network during the Covid crises Onshape has become useless. Apparently my mobile network of 2.5Mbit/s is insufficient. 
Last year (1999) I had no problems.
Any workarounds?.

NeilCooke

@rune_thorsen229 data requirements have not changed. Are you running on 3G? While this is just about bearable it is certainly not acceptable. Minimum would be 4G. Data is only really used on document loading. Network latency is the most important factor. I’m curious as to why you no longer have broadband?

rune_thorsen229

NeilCooke said:

@rune_thorsen229 data requirements have not changed. Are you running on 3G? While this is just about bearable it is certainly not acceptable. Minimum would be 4G. Data is only really used on document loading. Network latency is the most important factor. I’m curious as to why you no longer have broadband?

Seems like COVID has put a huge load on the internet with everybody videoconferencing (schools etc.) We have to be agile working, meaning using tethering and unfortunately they sell services as up to 10Gb/s but in reality we are down to some Mbs. If onshape like google drive had an offline mode it would be great.

NeilCooke

rune_thorsen229 said:

NeilCooke said:

@rune_thorsen229 data requirements have not changed. Are you running on 3G? While this is just about bearable it is certainly not acceptable. Minimum would be 4G. Data is only really used on document loading. Network latency is the most important factor. I’m curious as to why you no longer have broadband?

Seems like COVID has put a huge load on the internet with everybody videoconferencing (schools etc.) We have to be agile working, meaning using tethering and unfortunately they sell services as up to 10Gb/s but in reality we are down to some Mbs. If onshape like google drive had an offline mode it would be great.

Hi Rune, I'm not sure I understand why being "agile" means you have to tether to your phone? I can't say I've noticed any degradation of service in my home internet. It's not possible to make Onshape available offline since all modeling calcs take place in the cloud.