How do I make the camera controls not awful? Seriously, everything shouldnt tilt on camera-rotate

OnshapeBad

I need the camera controls to be parallel to the ground. It's seriously difficult to rotate an object when it's always tilting. Literally nobody wants it like that. I need it to be like fusion360 or any other normal camera control where rotation around an object doesn't cause it to tilt side to side, as in, it's afixed to a vertical axis. As it is, the camera controls are outright unusable. 

alexander_deng

Im a bit late, but you can make it constrained movement like you want by holding option/alt. Another way, probably what you want, is to go to your profile (click the top right button), go to preferences (on the left bar), and then scroll down to mouse controls. There will be an option to mimic specific CAD controls, or you can scroll down and check the "Set default rotation behaviour to constrained rotate" box.

NeilCooke

Hold option/alt

S1mon

I would be careful before you assume that "literally nobody wants it like that". Depending on what you are modeling and what CAD system you're coming from, one or the other of these defaults will seem completely wrong. If you are dealing with architecture or large objects which are always sitting the same way on the ground (cars, manufacturing equipment, etc) then sure, you may be right. If you're modeling small hand held objects, and/or you've been using Creo or Solidworks or countless other CAD systems, a camera which is locked with one direction up would be just as "outright unusable".

alnis

I agree with @S1mon. When mechanisms move around, "up" in the global coordinate space often doesn't make much sense, so I prefer trackball rotation as the default. It also makes navigation more consistent. For example, when you're zoomed in on a part and selecting a bunch of edges to fillet, or when you're working on a sketch, it's nice that the view always rotates/behaves the same way independent of how the model is oriented. You don't have to constantly think about which way is "up" when navigating around.

OnshapeBad

It is seriously the only thing that's holding Onshape back. If you're confident in the UX, make it an option so that users can decide to make it like every other normal cad, or inconsistent rotation. Focus is another thing clearly missing from the experience. Whereas any other cad, your focus fulcrum is fixated at the center of your previous selection or mouse-over of a feature; in OnShape it rates about some random point or origin somewhere else, so the object is always flying off the screen no matter what you do. That's not normal and it's seriously infuriating to use. If these were simply made options, onshape can compete with Fusion360 or Inventor. 

steve_shubin

@thanh_vu946

This was done on a 2017 MacBook Pro

This is real time.

I wasn’t looking to do this as fast as I could for this GIF

Just wanted to illustrate that most users are not having any problem moving around the interface

I would imagine the guys that are using their desktop units with their track balls could probably move around within the modeling window at quite a fast clip

So I used the trackpad on my MacBook Pro plus 3 keys — CONTROL — OPTION — f

romeograham

@thanh_vu946
Another thing to consider, is that Onshape rotates around the centroid (or close to it) of whatever is under your pointer...if you're working in a Part Studio, and have planes or large sketches visible, the rotation center may be picking those elements, rather than the center of your view.

Try turning off all construction geometry (Shift+P) and see how it behaves for you.

kriskate

Did a default rotation option get implemented somewhere where I can’t find it by now?

I’m just starting out with OnShape and planning to work on an ipad too, but after playing around for an hour or two, I just cannot get past this “rolling” phenomen.
I do love the feature set, but dragging a finger up/down/left/right and coming back to the same spot I started the drag should rotate my model as it was, and not potentially offscreen.

I do understand it might be a matter of taste, but if the option to lock the view as lots of users would like it is already implemented, why not have the option to default to it w/o having to hold a button while rotating (also, there usually are no keys on mobile devices)?

jonasd

Looking for the same answer... Looking to do more cross-platform CAD so I wanted to try switching to onshape... modifiers are not part of touch or mobile experiences; please allow defaulting to "alt" mode... Really impressed with the tool so far but this is a real dealbreaker

brett_davis270

Bump. I understand that many people have acclimated and even grown to like this translational math oddity, so I'm not interested in making this the default behavior. That said, an option for permanent constrained orbiting would be very much appreciated! I don't mind using ALT on my PC, but this is kind of a non-starter on a tablet.

padcom

NeilCooke said:

Hold option/alt

You guys are making assumptions that key modifiers will save the world. It won't! E.g. in Linux Alt is used to manipulate window size/position so just using "alt to orbit" won't cut it. There needs to be a setting allowing that (and orbiting point) to be configurable, rather than forcing one to abandon one of the most useful features of the operating system being used. That's just short-sided. 

Also, how do I make the rotation point (at least) fixed or (better yet) configurable?

charles_coulter852

Seriously. I can't figure out how to get controls more similar to Fusion 360 or Sketchup. This is maddening. I'd love to use Onshape but I can't if these types of controls are not available to me.

cadfriend

matthias_hryniszak said:

NeilCooke said:

Hold option/alt

You guys are making assumptions that key modifiers will save the world. It won't! E.g. in Linux Alt is used to manipulate window size/position so just using "alt to orbit" won't cut it.

First hold down the right mouse button and then hold down the ALT key. If you press the ALT key first, you can change the window size in Linux.

OnshapeBad

cadfriend said:

matthias_hryniszak said:

NeilCooke said:

Hold option/alt

You guys are making assumptions that key modifiers will save the world. It won't! E.g. in Linux Alt is used to manipulate window size/position so just using "alt to orbit" won't cut it.

First hold down the right mouse button and then hold down the ALT key. If you press the ALT key first, you can change the window size in Linux.

In what world do you think this is a real answer... Yeah everyone knows you can rotate by holding alt. We are past that stage.. That's literally the problem. Nobody wants to do that. 

cluny

Was just trying out OnShape, but this is also a significant issue for me. OnShape isn't the only CAD software to have limited look & feel options - there are minor annoyances to be worked-around in Fusion 360 too - just hoping that doesn't have to be the case forever.

alexander_deng

Im a bit late, but you can make it constrained movement like you want by holding option/alt. Another way, probably what you want, is to go to your profile (click the top right button), go to preferences (on the left bar), and then scroll down to mouse controls. There will be an option to mimic specific CAD controls, or you can scroll down and check the "Set default rotation behaviour to constrained rotate" box.