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CloudMilling - Full-Cloud CAM Solution

michael_22michael_22 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

CloudMilling was created to democratize and modernize CAM. For too long, the market has been dominated by systems that are either out of reach, via monetary or other means, or are inadequate for the job.

We believe that anyone, and everyone, from hobbyists and students to professional engineers working at multi-billion dollar conglomerates should have access to the same CAM system.

In the same way, CloudMilling was also built to utilize the most used platform in the world: Mobile devices. Imagine using CAM at the machine to tweak the parameters in case you want to cut a job on a different machine, or with different stock. The possibilities are endless.

  • Cloud-Based Solution - Use CloudMilling anywhere on any platform that has a browser, even on your mobile device. No need for expensive workstations.
  • Multi-Axis Machining - From 2-Axis to 5-Axis, CloudMilling can machine any job with its cutting-edge tool paths.
  • No Compromises - From hobbyists to professionals, CloudMilling can be used by anyone, without compromising expert features.
  • Zero Maintenance - With no hardware or licensing requirements, CloudMilling eliminates the use of license files, or dongles, and reduces the need for IT support.
  • Onshape Integration - Machine your Onshape parts easily with CloudMilling's full integration.

Visit the website.

Apply for the beta.

Comments

  • MichaelPascoeMichaelPascoe Member Posts: 463 PRO
    Onshape integration: Does this mean that if we change the size of the model in Onshape, the tool paths will automatically update to fit the updated model?

  • michael_22michael_22 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited July 8
    Onshape integration: Does this mean that if we change the size of the model in Onshape, the tool paths will automatically update to fit the updated model?

    Thanks for your question. Associativity is not currently implemented yet, but it will be in the future. At the moment, CloudMilling will notify you about any changes to a part studio and will let you regenerate the associated component.

    Hope this answers your question.

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • michael3424michael3424 Member Posts: 584 ✭✭✭
    What machines have you developed postprocessors for so far?

  • nick_papageorge073nick_papageorge073 Member Posts: 79 PRO
    Wow, this looks like a great pricing, for both hobbyists home users and professional machine shops. Question on the hobbyists side: for $10 per part, is that $10 every time you post? Or $10 for multiple posts on the same part? For example, if I have a part that goes through 3 revisions until the design is final (and I machine each version), would it cost $10 to machine it in total, or $30? Thanks.
  • michael_22michael_22 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited July 11
    What machines have you developed postprocessors for so far?

    We have several post processors available:

    • ISO NC
    • Heidenhain
    • Fanuc
    • Haas UMC-750
    • Hurco
    • A few others

    We can create a post processor for your machine on request.

    Wow, this looks like a great pricing, for both hobbyists home users and professional machine shops. Question on the hobbyists side: for $10 per part, is that $10 every time you post? Or $10 for multiple posts on the same part? For example, if I have a part that goes through 3 revisions until the design is final (and I machine each version), would it cost $10 to machine it in total, or $30? Thanks.
    The price is for a single version of a part. So, you can add, edit, and post tool paths, etc., but, if you change the part, you will be charged again. In the case of 3 revisions, you will be charged $30.

    We are looking for feedback on this.

    Hope this answers your questions.

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • nick_papageorge073nick_papageorge073 Member Posts: 79 PRO
    ....snip...

    The price is for a single version of a part. So, you can add, edit, and post tool paths, etc., but, if you change the part, you will be charged again. In the case of 3 revisions, you will be charged $30.

    We are looking for feedback on this.

    Hope this answers your questions.

    Thanks,
    Mike
    Hi Mike,

    If there is no geometry change, but it takes me (as a cnc hobbyist) 3 posted codes to eliminate my CAM mistakes and machine crashes, that part would cost $10 total, correct? But as soon as there is a geometry change from the originating CAD system, that is when there is an additional charge of $10 per each new import from the CAD system?

    I signed up for the beta and fooled around with it for a while. I could not figure it out. I got as far as assigning a coord system on the stock box points. I could not figure out how to make a toolpath. Is there a training document/video on using it? I could also only import a step file from my local disk. I could not import a part studio part.

    Thanks,
    Nick



  • michael_22michael_22 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    ....snip...

    The price is for a single version of a part. So, you can add, edit, and post tool paths, etc., but, if you change the part, you will be charged again. In the case of 3 revisions, you will be charged $30.

    We are looking for feedback on this.

    Hope this answers your questions.

    Thanks,
    Mike
    Hi Mike,

    If there is no geometry change, but it takes me (as a cnc hobbyist) 3 posted codes to eliminate my CAM mistakes and machine crashes, that part would cost $10 total, correct? But as soon as there is a geometry change from the originating CAD system, that is when there is an additional charge of $10 per each new import from the CAD system?

    I signed up for the beta and fooled around with it for a while. I could not figure it out. I got as far as assigning a coord system on the stock box points. I could not figure out how to make a toolpath. Is there a training document/video on using it? I could also only import a step file from my local disk. I could not import a part studio part.

    Thanks,
    Nick



    Hi Nick,

    That is correct.

    We are planning to release a getting started video this week.

    The basic concept of CloudMilling is Job -> Machine -> Setup -> Tool -> Tool Path, the same order as the buttons in the top left light up. I see that you managed to get to the Setup step. Next, you'll want to create a Tool operation, then you can finally create a Tool Path operation.

    In order to import a Onshape Part Studio, you change the Component Source to Onshape when you add a Component. This will show Document, Workspace, and Part Studio, which you must select in that order.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • michael3424michael3424 Member Posts: 584 ✭✭✭
    What machines have you developed postprocessors for so far?

    We have several post processors available:

    • ISO NC
    • Heidenhain
    • Fanuc
    • Haas UMC-750
    • Hurco
    • A few others

    We can create a post processor for your machine on request.


    Thanks.  Are the Pocket NC or Tormach mills and/or lathes on your radar?  I may be getting the former in future to play around with and so far as I know only Fusion 360 with the Machining Extension (~$1500 per year) supports that.
  • michael_22michael_22 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    What machines have you developed postprocessors for so far?

    We have several post processors available:

    • ISO NC
    • Heidenhain
    • Fanuc
    • Haas UMC-750
    • Hurco
    • A few others

    We can create a post processor for your machine on request.


    Thanks.  Are the Pocket NC or Tormach mills and/or lathes on your radar?  I may be getting the former in future to play around with and so far as I know only Fusion 360 with the Machining Extension (~$1500 per year) supports that.
    We can create any post processor that you require. Currently, we do not support lathes, but will be in the future.

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • MichaelPascoeMichaelPascoe Member Posts: 463 PRO
    edited July 15


    First impressions:

    Note: I really want this to work, I think the idea is fantastic and could take over a lot of the CAM industry if it goes well.

    - There were no email notifications from the beta application, I found the app in the app store at random.

    I could not import a part from the current studio the app was located in.
    (Suggestion: Parts should be picked similarly to the import tool in the Onshape drawings.) 

    - The app was viewing all of my documents, not just the one I placed it in. This is a security breach for me.
    (Suggestion: Only current studios from the current document should be shown.)

    - The menu user interface was not intuitive. It is drop down menu after drop down menu. I could barely function with it.
    (Suggestion: Create a more visual menu user interface like Onshape studios or assemblies.)

    - The machine axis options and tool path options were impressive. I was unable to test them due to the current menu interface and the amount of time I was willing to spend.

    - Surprisingly, the app supports a 3D Connexion Space Mouse! Unfortunately, the movement was too laggy and slow to use efficiently. The standard right click mouse drag was fine.


    Summary

    - The menu user interface is not currently usable for the amount of time I am willing to spend.
    - Models from the current document need to be the import priority.


  • michael_22michael_22 Member Posts: 6 ✭✭


    First impressions:

    Note: I really want this to work, I think the idea is fantastic and could take over a lot of the CAM industry if it goes well.

    - There were no email notifications from the beta application, I found the app in the app store at random.

    I could not import a part from the current studio the app was located in.
    (Suggestion: Parts should be picked similarly to the import tool in the Onshape drawings.) 

    - The app was viewing all of my documents, not just the one I placed it in. This is a security breach for me.
    (Suggestion: Only current studios from the current document should be shown.)

    - The menu user interface was not intuitive. It is drop down menu after drop down menu. I could barely function with it.
    (Suggestion: Create a more visual menu user interface like Onshape studios or assemblies.)

    - The machine axis options and tool path options were impressive. I was unable to test them due to the current menu interface and the amount of time I was willing to spend.

    - Surprisingly, the app supports a 3D Connexion Space Mouse! Unfortunately, the movement was too laggy and slow to use efficiently. The standard right click mouse drag was fine.


    Summary

    - The menu user interface is not currently usable for the amount of time I am willing to spend.
    - Models from the current document need to be the import priority.


    Hi Michael,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Usually, a receipt is sent straight away after you apply, and Onshape sends an email when you are added to the beta team.

    We have now improved how we import Onshape Part Studios by using the integrated Onshape Selection UI.

    Just to let you know, every app on Onshape can see all of your documents when you add/authorise it. The Onshape API doesn't allow more granular permissions, such as per document, it only allows per user or per company. You may need Onshape Enterprise for more control. However, with our new improvement, it should only show the document that you are currently in now.

    If you don't mind, could you expand on what you mean by "a more visual menu user interface" so that we can improve CloudMilling?

    About the Space Mouse, thank you for letting us know about this issue. We have tested this with many hardware configurations and many people and this is the first time that we have heard about this issue. The first thing to check is the 3DConnexion drivers. After this, it depends on whether you are using integrated graphics or not. If you are, then switch your browser to use the dedicated graphics card. This is also mentioned in the Onshape documentation. If all of this fails, would you be willing to share your document so that we can investigate this issue?

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks,
    Mike
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