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Improvements to Onshape - January 31st, 2025

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  • nick_papageorge_dayjobnick_papageorge_dayjob Member, csevp Posts: 868 PRO

    He has a lot of videos on youtube machining aluminum, and I think steel too. I have my Taig in my apartment (it was at my dayjob where I used it a lot then). It is fairly quiet because the spindle maxes out at 8000 RPM, using a belt drive servo motor. I only use it once every 6 months or so. The Sharif DMC uses a 20,000 RPM range router motor, as do almost all the hobby cnc's. Those will be much louder. IDK if they still have power if the speed is turned way down.

  • EvanReeseEvanReese Member, Mentor Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great update! Form tools are a big win

    Evan Reese
  • onsf59onsf59 Member Posts: 1 PRO
    edited February 4

    Hi,

    Can the form tool create a form into a bend like the part in the picture below?

  • martin_farrowmartin_farrow Member Posts: 7

    Is there a way to get this in an existing part studio ? it only shows in new studios

  • Nick_HolzemNick_Holzem Member Posts: 131 PRO

    @martin_farrow submit a support ticket to have the new features pushed.

  • don_williams909don_williams909 Member Posts: 145 PRO
    edited February 4

    Can someone please show me how to use the form tool on a curved part, or to create a curved part?

  • Jason_SJason_S Moderator, Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 217

    Give me a sample 3 axis part and I'll cut it on my TM2P and make a video from start to finish.

    Support & QA
  • Jason_SJason_S Moderator, Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 217

    Can you share an image or a link to what you're trying to do? Right now it only works on planar things. IRL, would you:

    • Have a sheet cut (lasered, plasma'd)
    • Roll that
    • Then manually use a die on a brake?
      • I've used a turret punch press machine before and non-planar things aren't really going to happen on that. Forms would just get deformed if rolled after this

    Support & QA
  • lanalana Onshape Employees Posts: 723

    Currently only forms fully fitting inside flat wall are supported.

  • S1monS1mon Member Posts: 3,157 PRO

    I'm very happy that we finally have forming tools, but I do hope that this limitation is addressed soon. Corner gussets would be nice, but even being able to create a bridge lance at the edge of a sheet is pretty common.

  • aeromorrisonaeromorrison Member Posts: 37 PRO

    Parts like the one shown below are extremely common in the aviation world. I work with parts with features such as these every day. It starts from a flat sheet and then all of the tabs are formed over a forming tool/block. This part is difficult to model in Onshape currently. It has formed flanges along a curved edge and Onshape supports neither of these conditions.

    The dream solution for a part like this is to allow it to be formed in a user-defined forming tool and then have the inverse of the new Flatten surfaces analysis tool (maybe a formed surface analysis?) provide some basic insights on the relative strain levels after forming.

  • Jason_SJason_S Moderator, Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 217

    Great, thanks. I think feature-wise this would be more covered with a flange along a curved edge for a few reasons:

    • I'm sure the curvature/length of the edges of those ribs isn't really uniform/constant. Making a form on an edge for this would require a lot of setup for 1-2 uses.
    • It would be less work to do two partial flanges on a curved edge and either pattern the cuts or have a custom feature that makes x cuts on a face (given bounds of a face, number of cuts, change spacing based on curvature, etc)

    Support & QA
  • aeromorrisonaeromorrison Member Posts: 37 PRO

    @Jason_S Certainly from a modeling perspective being able to add a flange along a variable curvature edge would be a huge step forward as long as the resulting non-developable features can still be flattened. Being able to flatten it is the key concern with a flange feature like this.

  • Nick_HolzemNick_Holzem Member Posts: 131 PRO
    edited February 4

    @aeromorrison in release 1.190 the Flatten diagnostic and exporter tool was released. It will allow you to flatten a form likes this. FEA could be conducted from here.

  • aeromorrisonaeromorrison Member Posts: 37 PRO
    edited 1:22PM

    @Nick_Holzem Yes. I referenced that a couple of comments ago when I mentioned that an inverse capability would be part of a 'dream solution'. This flatten analysis tool is awesome, but the capability isn't integrated into flat patterns like the other sheet metal tools. It's also not possible yet to bend the flanges on curved edges as a sheet metal part.

  • nick_papageorge_dayjobnick_papageorge_dayjob Member, csevp Posts: 868 PRO

    Try throwing it in the trash and then retrieving it. That process forces the document to update.

  • EvanReeseEvanReese Member, Mentor Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • dave_lapthornedave_lapthorne Member, Onshape Employees, csevp Posts: 28

    Post/Machine customization is something that is planned for the future, yes

    Onshape QA Engineer
  • fnxffnxf Member, User Group Leader Posts: 144 PRO

    Some great stuff here, but my favorite is definitely SHEET METAL FORM. Yay! Thank you so much!

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