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I got a problem :# Iworked a long time on an projekt....

f_p479f_p479 Member Posts: 9 EDU
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 I want to extrude my little projekt but every time i do it says cant be done because the extrudet parts would overlap.....
I dont know what to do and it would be realy sad if i cant complete it.. here is the projekt would be nice to know if there is anything i can do: https://cad.onshape.com/documents/0e98f0fd17c8b57aa932d27e/w/e21b82ae3bb13e42be09f641/e/8250e27afa55fe2a6102efed

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    S1monS1mon Member Posts: 2,387 PRO
    You've imported a badly converted 2D sketch of an isometric drawing. What exactly are you trying to do with this? There's no good way to convert this into a 3D model, if that's what you're expecting. If you have good 2D views of a part or assembly you may be able to reverse engineer it.
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    f_p479f_p479 Member Posts: 9 EDU
    S1mon said:
    You've imported a badly converted 2D sketch of an isometric drawing. What exactly are you trying to do with this? There's no good way to convert this into a 3D model, if that's what you're expecting. If you have good 2D views of a part or assembly you may be able to reverse engineer it.
    I tried to recreate something like that: https://www.printables.com/de/model/485761-nes-console-patent-art/comments
    If it's not possible no problem... 
    Thanks for the answer 👍
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    ShapenShapen Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution. 
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    S1monS1mon Member Posts: 2,387 PRO
    If you just want to make a laser cut 2.5D construction, you'll probably need to do a bunch of clean up of the imported curves. There are some faces in your existing sketch which can likely extrude, but you will not be able to simply extrude the whole sketch in one go.

    Do you have a vector version of the original artwork or is this done with some sort of auto-trace of an image? In either case, going back to the original and looking at all the import/conversion options might yield a better starting point. 
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    f_p479f_p479 Member Posts: 9 EDU
    S1mon said:
    You've imported a badly converted 2D sketch of an isometric drawing. What exactly are you trying to do with this? There's no good way to convert this into a 3D model, if that's what you're expecting. If you have good 2D views of a part or assembly you may be able to reverse engineer it.
    I tried to recreate something like that: https://www.printables.com/de/model/485761-nes-console-patent-art/comments
    If it's not possible no problem... 
    Thanks for the 
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    f_p479f_p479 Member Posts: 9 EDU
    Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#lates

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution. 

    I set it on puplic :smiley:

    Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution. 

    Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution.S1mon said:
    You've imported a badly converted 2D sketch of an isometric drawing. What exactly are you trying to do with this? There's no good way to convert this into a 3D model, if that's what you're expecting. If you have good 2D views of a part or assembly you may be able to reverse engineer it.
    I tried to recreate something like that: https://www.printables.com/de/model/485761-nes-console-patent-art/comments
    If it's not possible no problem... 
    Thanks for the 
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    f_p479f_p479 Member Posts: 9 EDU
    S1mon said:
    If you just want to make a laser cut 2.5D construction, you'll probably need to do a bunch of clean up of the imported curves. There are some faces in your existing sketch which can likely extrude, but you will not be able to simply extrude the whole sketch in one go.

    Do you have a vector version of the original artwork or is this done with some sort of auto-trace of an image? In either case, going back to the original and looking at all the import/conversion options might yield a better starting point. 

    I traced everything Manuel from this picture of the engine: https://sachsersatzteile.de/produkt/scheibe-153x20x01-8/ 
    It's not the best quality imagine but it's pretty decent Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#lates

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution. 

    I set it on puplic :

    Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution. 

    Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution.S1mon said:
    You've imported a badly converted 2D sketch of an isometric drawing. What exactly are you trying to do with this? There's no good way to convert this into a 3D model, if that's what you're expecting. If you have good 2D views of a part or assembly you may be able to reverse engineer it.
    I tried to recreate something like that: https://www.printables.com/de/model/485761-nes-console-patent-art/comments
    If it's not possible no problem... 
    Thanks for the 
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    nick_papageorge073nick_papageorge073 Member, csevp Posts: 676 PRO
    Are you trying to make the motor assembly? Or are you trying to make a Nintendo?

    Either way, Onshape is a 3D program. You would have to draw the motor or the Nintendo using the native Onshape features. The drawing you have is best used as a visual guide printed on a piece of paper. This is true of any CAD program. 
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    f_p479f_p479 Member Posts: 9 EDU
    S1mon said:
    If you just want to make a laser cut 2.5D construction, you'll probably need to do a bunch of clean up of the imported curves. There are some faces in your existing sketch which can likely extrude, but you will not be able to simply extrude the whole sketch in one go.

    Do you have a vector version of the original artwork or is this done with some sort of auto-trace of an image? In either case, going back to the original and looking at all the import/conversion options might yield a better starting point. 

    I traced everything Manuel from this picture of the engine: https://sachsersatzteile.de/produkt/scheibe-153x20x01-8/ 
    It's not the best quality imagine but it's pretty decent 



     said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#lates

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution. 

    I set it on puplic :

    Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution. 

    Shapen said:
    Could you change your sharing settings on the document from Link to Make Public? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    This will allow us to make a copy of your document so we can come up with a potential solution.S1mon said:
    You've imported a badly converted 2D sketch of an isometric drawing. What exactly are you trying to do with this? There's no good way to convert this into a 3D model, if that's what you're expecting. If you have good 2D views of a part or assembly you may be able to reverse engineer it.
    I tried to recreate something like that: https://www.printables.com/de/model/485761-nes-console-patent-art/comments
    If it's not possible no problem... 
    Thanks for the nick_papageorge073 said:
    Are you trying to make the motor assembly? Or are you trying to make a Nintendo?

    Either way, Onshape is a 3D program. You would have to draw the motor or the Nintendo using the native Onshape features. The drawing you have is best used as a visual guide printed on a piece of paper. This is true of any CAD program. 
    The motor👍 the console was just inspiration😁
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    nick_papageorge073nick_papageorge073 Member, csevp Posts: 676 PRO
    What is your goal for the engine? CAD practice only? That does not look like something practical for 3D printing.

    If CAD practice is your gaol, do all the tutorials on part modeling and assembly built into onshape. It should take you about 2 weeks of daily use to complete them all. After that, you will have all the knowledge needed to model the engine, and make an assembly of its components.
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    f_p479f_p479 Member Posts: 9 EDU
    nick_papageorge073 sagte:
    Versuchen Sie, die Motorbaugruppe selbst herzustellen? Oder versuchen Sie, einen Nintendo zu bauen?

    In jedem Fall ist Onshape ein 3D-Programm. Sie müssten den Motor oder den Nintendo mit den nativen Onshape-Funktionen zeichnen. Die Zeichnung, die Sie haben, verwenden Sie am besten als visuelle Anleitung, die Sie auf ein Blatt Papier drucken. Dies gilt für jedes CAD-Programm. 

    Nein, du hast mich nicht verstanden ...
    Ich möchte etwas Ähnliches wie die Konsole erstellen ...
    Also ein 2,5-D-Bild des Standardbilds. Ich habe es bereits nachgezeichnet, aber es kann nicht extrudiert werden, da sich die Teile überlappen würden. Das war meine Frage. Wenn es eine Möglichkeit gibt, die Überschneidungen zu ignorieren 😁




    S1mon sagte:
    Wenn Sie lediglich eine lasergeschnittene 2,5D-Konstruktion erstellen möchten, müssen Sie wahrscheinlich eine Reihe von Aufräumarbeiten an den importierten Kurven durchführen. Es gibt einige Flächen in Ihrer vorhandenen Skizze, die wahrscheinlich extrudiert werden können, aber Sie können nicht einfach die gesamte Skizze auf einmal extrudieren.

    Haben Sie eine Vektorversion des Originalkunstwerks oder wird dies mit einer Art automatischer Nachverfolgung eines Bildes erstellt? In beiden Fällen könnte es einen besseren Ausgangspunkt ergeben, zum Original zurückzukehren und sich alle Import-/Konvertierungsoptionen anzusehen. 

    Ich habe Manuel alles anhand dieses Bildes des Motors nachgezeichnet: https://sachsersatzteile.de/produkt/scheibe-153x20x01-8/ 
    Es ist nicht die beste Qualität, die man sich vorstellen kann, aber es ist ziemlich anständig. 



     Sagte:
    Könnten Sie Ihre Freigabeeinstellungen für das Dokument von „Link“ auf „Öffentlich machen“ ändern? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#lates

    Dadurch können wir eine Kopie Ihres Dokuments erstellen, damit wir eine mögliche Lösung finden können. 

    Ich habe es auf public eingestellt:

    Shapen sagte:
    Könnten Sie Ihre Freigabeeinstellungen für das Dokument von „Link“ auf „Öffentlich machen“ ändern? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    Dadurch können wir eine Kopie Ihres Dokuments erstellen, damit wir eine mögliche Lösung finden können. 

    Shapen sagte:
    Könnten Sie Ihre Freigabeeinstellungen für das Dokument von „Link“ auf „Öffentlich machen“ ändern? 

    https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/9107/forum-post-checklist-read-this-first#latest

    Dadurch können wir eine Kopie Ihres Dokuments erstellen, damit wir eine mögliche Lösung finden können. S1mon sagte:
    Sie haben eine schlecht konvertierte 2D-Skizze einer isometrischen Zeichnung importiert. Was genau versuchst du damit zu machen? Es gibt keine gute Möglichkeit, dies in ein 3D-Modell umzuwandeln, wenn Sie das erwarten. Wenn Sie über gute 2D-Ansichten eines Teils oder einer Baugruppe verfügen, können Sie es möglicherweise rückentwickeln.
    Ich habe versucht, so etwas nachzubilden: https://www.printables.com/de/model/485761-nes-console-patent-art/comments
    Wenn es nicht möglich ist, kein Problem ... 
    Danke für den  Nick_papageorge073 sagte:
    Versuchen Sie, die Motorbaugruppe selbst herzustellen? Oder versuchen Sie, einen Nintendo zu bauen?

    In jedem Fall ist Onshape ein 3D-Programm. Sie müssten den Motor oder den Nintendo mit den nativen Onshape-Funktionen zeichnen. Die Zeichnung, die Sie haben, verwenden Sie am besten als visuelle Anleitung, die Sie auf ein Blatt Papier drucken. Dies gilt für jedes CAD-Programm. 
    Der Motor👍die Konsole war nur Inspiration
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