Standard Content - Edit Appearance

CAD_Hero_1337

I am adding in standard content...

6-32 x .25 phillips flat head - stainless steel - black

I want the hardware to be black in the model and not just show up in the BOM indicating it should be black.

Support said that i should right click on the part in the list and choose "edit appearance" but that option is not there. Anyone have any advice?

Jason_S

@David_Harris_420 ,

You cannot change the color of standard content at this time. They are versioned parts and we do not have a mechanism for you to change colors of versioned parts. We could, in the future, include it as a company defined property much like standard content part number and description. 

Not everyone wants content to be the color it exists as in real life. Some companies want different sizes or types of fasteners to be different colors to easily identify them on an assembly.

We will be adding you to an improvement request.

owen_sparks

@Jason_S

Please will you add me to this request also? 

I too set a Standard Content bolt instance to be "black" as I have stainless and black bolts in an assembly and wanted the build instruction to be clear.  As it stands they're all grey and this isn't helpful.

Cheers,

Owen S.

CAD_Hero_1337

@Jason_S ... That would be great. I mean at least make the black hardware black when you make the selection, version out a black one. Would be best to be able to control it yourself. Also... on the drawing at the bottom of the standard content relating to the screw head... it would be great that the drawing changes from slot, type 1, etc...

It clarifies the selection and eliminates confusion. Thanks for adding me and your time to write back.

brucebartlett

agreed,  colour of the content is important to me too.  Black (dark grey), Yellow Chromate (off yellow), Chrome silver (light grey), S/S (light grey). These colors can help to determine that finished product is built with consistency. Generally purchase part will vary in part number based on colour so ultimately, chrome silver or yellow chromate part will have a different part number. 

CAD_Hero_1337

@brucebartlett I wouldn't be surprised if this is updated soon. They are amazing at quickly creating improvements. Its come a long way in the two years I have been using this.

Breanna_Hayton

@Jason_S Do you know if this enhancement has been released yet? It would be very handy to show the appropriate colour hardware during design reviews. Unfortunately, I am unable to locate the menu option or find any other info on it. Thanks!

Frank_Arute

@Breanna_Hayton It doesn't look like this has been released yet.

Having the appearance and also vendor be company defined parameters would make standard content useful for our group too.

Janik

Jason_S said:

@David_Harris_420 ,

You cannot change the color of standard content at this time. They are versioned parts and we do not have a mechanism for you to change colors of versioned parts. We could, in the future, include it as a company defined property much like standard content part number and description. 

Not everyone wants content to be the color it exists as in real life. Some companies want different sizes or types of fasteners to be different colors to easily identify them on an assembly.

We will be adding you to an improvement request.

Would I be able to make a similar request?

Thank you,
Janik

Scott_Morris

Requested in 2018, does not appear to be delivered yet. This is not a critical issue for me, but it would be nice to have. I create a lot of screen shots and images from CAD and its important to be able to change the source colors without trying to post process color changes. 

S1mon

As a work around, you could create a derived part from standard content and assign an appearance to that. Most likely this is not a great solution for large numbers of fasteners.

eric_pesty

@S1mon
I had that thought before but standard content isn't available for deriving in unfortunately!
The closest alternative is to use a context and "copy in place".

S1mon

@eric_pesty

Ugh. I just assumed that standard content worked like any other parts. 

I guess this is one more reason that it would be nice to have "semi-custom" or "semi-standard" (?) content which could be customized more than what's currently available.

eric_pesty

S1mon said:

@eric_pesty

Ugh. I just assumed that standard content worked like any other parts. 

I know! We are a bit spoiled with Onshape where you usually just "assume" things are going to work as you would expect... But sometimes that's not the case!

Frank_Bertucci

Also would love to have this. It helps with rendering workflows so the hardware is all grouped and easy to assign textures in keyshot. It also helps with instructional material.

Jason_Brown

Still required please!

rick_randall

I would like a custom tab, so I could add my own content - kind of like frame profiles. Don't want to change standard content, just be able to add & access my own custom stuff from the user interface box

martin_kopplow

Yes, count me in, for this is more important than it appears at first glance. Mounting instructions looking at least somewhat like the real thing is one reason. Color coding the material or class is another. At one point, with my old CAD, I started making all the fasteners and hardware we have in stock pink, and all that have to be made, modified or ordered green. Looks ugly, but the shop loved it. Now they ask why I stopped doing that. Also, for rendering, it allowed me to select by colour and assign an apperance to all of them in one go. Saves quite a bit of time, when you have hundreds or more of them.

Mathias_Bourgault

Required for me too for rendering, screen shots and images from CAD

S1mon

This is becoming more of an issue for me at the moment. My current client likes to use color coding to make it really clear which material is being used for which fasteners. It seams really stupid to have to choose between using standard content without color coding or custom fasteners with color coding.

R_Otero

Ditto to this.

Frank_Bertucci

Throwing another vote in to make this happen.

For us hardware finish is pretty critical especially if it's an exposed fastener. The more we can show that in the assembly documents the better. Manufacturing gets confused when a screw that should be black zinc looks silver.

Viktor_Nagy

Is there an improvement request for this issue? This blocks me from utilizing the cool functionalities of the standard content.

Oliver_Couch

You may wish to use this fancy fastener creator document instead. Has configurable appearances and all kinds of bolt head options etc.

https://cad.onshape.com/documents/f194954dce2ac8fddc64f30b/w/464fd0c663f79bdc00f3b0ed/e/f11db521de936cff5d093c19