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Finding out if the work of a student is a copy of of the work of another one

francois_bouletfrancois_boulet Member Posts: 56 EDU
Is there a better way than going in "Versions & history" and clicking a hundred time on "Show more changes"  ???
Someone found a way ?
La simplicité est la sophistication suprême.
Léonard de Vinci

Comments

  • NeilCookeNeilCooke Moderator, Onshape Employees Posts: 3,018
    Click on “Start” in the Versions and History. If it shows geometry it was copied.
  • francois_bouletfrancois_boulet Member Posts: 56 EDU
    But you can't see from who it comes.
    I'm I wrong ?
    La simplicité est la sophistication suprême.
    Léonard de Vinci
  • NeilCookeNeilCooke Moderator, Onshape Employees Posts: 3,018
    No you can’t but you can disqualify the student who submits it. 
  • brian_bradybrian_brady Member, Developers Posts: 458 EDU
    I also generally disqualify the student who shared their work.
  • francois_bouletfrancois_boulet Member Posts: 56 EDU
    Thanks Neil
    La simplicité est la sophistication suprême.
    Léonard de Vinci
  • john_mcclaryjohn_mcclary Member, Developers Posts: 2,709 PRO
    How can you tell if they shared? If they removed the share before submitting. Or duplicated a doc and shared that? 

    What if someone shared with them so they could help someone work through a problem through collaboration tools?
  • justin_36justin_36 Member Posts: 20 EDU
    Like with any cheating scenario, there's always a possibility of getting around it: a student could share credentials with another to "do the work" for them under a different username.

    Still, I am very glad for Onshape both the cloud-based and seeing the history of when kids are doing their work, the majority of whom will do their work in a fair manner.

    In other instances, I have asked a questionable student to explain the process of making the file, maybe not click-by-click, but talking through, as if they are teaching. They could use a presentation (screenshots) or whatever thing short of having them actually show you them doing Onshape. Usually this can tease out whether or not they know their stuff and if it is a red flag, hopefully it can be addressed more at the root cause (lack of confidence, other stuff going on in life, etc.). This type of diagnosing becomes harder and more important in a time of distance learning.
  • david_kurtzdavid_kurtz Member Posts: 13 EDU

    I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one with this question. I'm new to teaching my class with Onshape, so this is a learning process for me.

    I came across this situation. This screen shot is all I see in the history for a student project.  There should be a sketch and a revolve.  It would be nice if the history said that a copied sketch or feature was inserted, preferably with a mention of the parent file (even if this said 'document no longer shared/available').  
      

  • NeilCookeNeilCooke Moderator, Onshape Employees Posts: 3,018
    @david_kurtz - that screenshot shows that the document was copied from someone else and no work has been done in that document since it was copied - therefore that student has not done any work on the project other than copy it from someone else.
  • david_kurtzdavid_kurtz Member Posts: 13 EDU
    @NeilCooke Thank you for the quick reply.  I am able to do some forensic work and am pretty sure were their copy came from.  I appreciate Onshape showing the number of copies made.

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