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Quoting forum posts with large graphics and animations, and/or lengthy passages of text
andrew_troup
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I would like to suggest that when quoting posts from earlier in the thread, the quote should preferably be edited, removing material which is not strictly being addressed in the new post.
Obviously animations are the worst culprit, but (partly because of the way answers, and best answers, already get repeated) threads sometimes end up with a lot of pastry and not much filling.
There are snags with editing quoted posts: it pays, for instance, to first stick some text after them and never delete it all, or you end up adding to the quote and lose access to the previous white space. Please ask if you strike other problems, I struggle at times but others have good answers.
Obviously animations are the worst culprit, but (partly because of the way answers, and best answers, already get repeated) threads sometimes end up with a lot of pastry and not much filling.
There are snags with editing quoted posts: it pays, for instance, to first stick some text after them and never delete it all, or you end up adding to the quote and lose access to the previous white space. Please ask if you strike other problems, I struggle at times but others have good answers.
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michael3424
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Yes, I would rather OS focuses on CAD development right now, but the software is frustrating or annoying nonetheless.3dcad said:
If I have understood correctly that would be http://vanillaforums.org/michael3424 said:Shouldn't a world class CAD company be able to make quoting a bit easier for its users?
I'm sure you wan't Onshape to concentrate on CAD development rather than forking forum software details for easier quoting..
Early in my engineering career, I'd set up an FM radio in my office to listen to when working late and had rigged up a wire which protruded through the drop ceiling to an antenna for improved reception. The wire dangled from the ceiling and draped across my desk to the radio and was a little unsightly. Our division director happened by my office late one night on his way out, glanced in and commented "I would think a clever engineer could figure out a better way of running that wire". It got fixed shortly thereafter, even though I suspect the director liked his employees to concentrate on corporate work. Impressions matter and sometimes you need to deal with the bad ones lest they taint your own reputation.
On the plus side the advice and info dispensed here by both users and employees is so good that one tends to forgive about the annoyances.5
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Right on!
don't quote like this: p.s. you can enter html mode (post toolbar rightmost icon and reclaim your whitespace)
Example of html view:
<blockquote class="Quote">***Quote begins***
<div><a target="_blank" rel="nofollow">joris_kofman</a> said:</div>
<div><br>
p.s. you can enter html mode (post toolbar rightmost icon and reclaim your whitespace)</div>
</blockquote> ***Quote ends***
Write something here to get white space back below quote
Good point, @joris_kofman
I hesitated to teach people how to suck eggs more than I already was, but perhaps for once I said too little.
My personal antidote to what joris so trenchantly warns of above, is to try to remember to insert " ......." wherever I snip material from a quote.
Also: best to avoid snipping material in a way which defeats or alters the meaning or intent
(which I try, but of course this is no guarantee of success).
There's the old story about a book reviewer who wrote something like "This is a book which should not be tossed aside lightly"
He was quoted on the back cover of the second edition, but they did not see fit to include the next sentence from his original review, which had (supposedly) gone on to say:
"It should instead be thrown with great force!"
If I have understood correctly that would be http://vanillaforums.org/
I'm sure you wan't Onshape to concentrate on CAD development rather than forking forum software details for easier quoting..
* (or could be persuaded to come)
Particularly as a newbie, I found the forum software a bit of a struggle, and I still feel it is far short of a worthy "front end" or "reception area", even without considering the improvement request side of things.
I'm sure I must have accidentally clicked on "Ask a Question" instead of "New Discussion", but once you do that and don't notice, is seems the die is cast.
But the forum software seems unlikely to let me pick one of MY posts as an answer to what is firmly convinced is MY question. Sigh....
(ON EDIT) sure enough, one is not permitted to answer one's own questions.
It occurs to me that in real life, that often happens, but some software is smarter than real life.
I stole the idea from strip where boy asked his father to change batteries to rc vehicle and father asked help for synchronizing tablet with phone..
Early in my engineering career, I'd set up an FM radio in my office to listen to when working late and had rigged up a wire which protruded through the drop ceiling to an antenna for improved reception. The wire dangled from the ceiling and draped across my desk to the radio and was a little unsightly. Our division director happened by my office late one night on his way out, glanced in and commented "I would think a clever engineer could figure out a better way of running that wire". It got fixed shortly thereafter, even though I suspect the director liked his employees to concentrate on corporate work. Impressions matter and sometimes you need to deal with the bad ones lest they taint your own reputation.
On the plus side the advice and info dispensed here by both users and employees is so good that one tends to forgive about the annoyances.
michael3424's post as "Best Answer" not just to get the forum software to stop pestering me, but because I thought it was such a great post.
In the case of the forum sofware and its architecture, I personally think the potential damage to participation and goodwill goes a little deeper than Michael's great example suggests (for instance, I'm currently taking a mental health holiday from submitting IRs and feedback tickets),
BUT
the last line of Michael's post lays out what to me is a far more important truth.
- we login with same credentials with cad (this is huge)
- I haven't lost a single comment (draft is saved automatically) which is pretty common problem for many forums if you let it sit too long
- I like the visual look, text is easy to read and unread threads show with different color
- Text is automatically spellchecked (this function is good for us non-native-english-speakers)
In summary, I think all we need is clear list of fail points delivered to vanillaforums development and Onshape can concentrate on cad.
Can you check this out @lougallo ?