How can we make drawing dimensioning and annotations awesome?

lonnie_1

Interesting in the video when the hole was dimensioned it showed up as 2X M6 THRU

Is this a hint of a hole wizard coming and hole call outs??

rachel_haden904

lowjack said:

May seem a minor thing, but line weights in SW are all the same - dimensions, parts, you name it. A complicated drawing with lots of dimensions starts very quickly to obstruct the part itself, and is very hard to read. Way back in the day when I learned drafting with pencil, paper, and straight edge I had to vary my line weights to ensure that the drawing was readable. Would love to see some options with that in OS. 

rachel_haden904

This would be a great feature.  

Don_Van_Zile

...Old thread and late to the party. 

pete_yodis said:

cont'd...

• IF we can fully define a model such as in ASME Y14.41, then why not have dimensioned 2D drawings just automatically reflect what was done on the model? (MBD has trended that way, drawings can leverage what was done on the model view to be quickly created)  I'm thinking of single annotation tool on the drawing that just selects a face or two faces & then automatically displays the dimension & tolerance that was defined on the model - that way they can't be different.  This could tie in with the tool mentioned above.  The drawing dimension could be counted off against the model dimension so that we know the drawing is fully accounted for.  This sets out a path for MBD, while still having 2D drawings supported in an efficient manner. 
   

Does this make sense?  

Yes, it makes PERFECT sense and I'm surprise Onshape didn't go down this path for their drawing philosophy (The 2D drawing is really the 3D model View that's dimensioned and able to be placed on a drawing view). Is this still being looks into @pete_yodis

Seemingly echoed by:

Emm said:

Regarding dimensioning in general you will hopefully have 3D dimensioning of model that can be easily converted to 2D views if needed. 
Simple brainstorms will reinvent Solidworks's 2008 DimXpert functionality.

3dcad said:

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Let's not even call it drawings, let's call it PrintViews or something. Drawings are something made in the past with sharp pencil and ruler to big whitepaper on a wooden table in hazy outbuilding.

Few things I would like to have in PrintViews (formerly known as Drawings):

- Automated workflow on standard parts. Just create a part and select StandardPrintView from the list you have created and have in automatic certain standard views (front, left, top etc.) scaled to preset areas on print sheet. Include also standard dimensions that may be marked while dimensioning in the part studio.
I hope you get a clue what I mean - I just don't like doing same work again and again nor doing dimensioning twice (showing all the dimensions used on design is worthless, deleting unnecessary takes more time than adding the ones needed - visible dimensions needs to be marked while modeling)

- Allow more views than standard, also free view like in part studio workspace

- Keep in mind that this is good and only way of creating up-to-date assembly instructions and presentations, so have a good support and tools for imported images (jpg, png, vector based, etc.) and advanced text editor and many types of pointers, arrows and frames for annotations and notes.

- Animated explode/implode with advanced control saved in 3dpdf

- Perfect pdf export to the cloud with advanced control (for some reason, I find myself using pdf creator in most cases because built-in systems fail scaling or produce lower quality or larger files) 
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Or... we'll have to have a Convert to 3D MBD like NX which is really nice in hindsight; the reverse philosophy. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTekE-Jyrk4

Don_Van_Zile

I would also love the standard limits and fits of ISO and ANSI standards intelligence built into dimensions/call outs.

Below is an online calculator that has to be manually entered now.


https://www.amesweb.info/FitTolerance/PreferredLimitsFitsCylindricalPartsInchUnits.aspx

https://www.amesweb.info/FitTolerance/FitTolerance.aspx

brucebartlett

Don_Van_Zile said:

I would also love the standard limits and fits of ISO and ANSI standards intelligence built into dimensions/call outs.

Below is an online calculator that has to be manually entered now.


https://www.amesweb.info/FitTolerance/PreferredLimitsFitsCylindricalPartsInchUnits.aspx

https://www.amesweb.info/FitTolerance/FitTolerance.aspx

I think this is the IR that relates, please vote https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/comment/43593#Comment_43593    Manually entering is painful, time-consuming and mistake prone.