Piping Diagrams, P&IDs & other schematics

rahul_nabar

Does OnShape provide any tools for making P&IDs (Piping & Instrumentation Diagrams) 3D piping isometric drawings & other schematics? 

I do realize this is not 3D-CAD but many of the conventional CAD systems nevertheless provide some functionality for this sort of thing which still benefits from CAD functionality. 

Just curious. 

lougallo

@rahul_nabar Not today but I wonder if you post something in our App Store & Partner Apps to see if any partners might plan on doing something in the shorter term.

lougallo

@rahul_nabar Not today but I wonder if you post something in our App Store & Partner Apps to see if any partners might plan on doing something in the shorter term.

david_stoldt

I to would like to have some tools for doing 2D schematic drawings within a project. These may include P&ID (piping and instrumentation drawings) Electrical Schematics, Flow Diagrams, Control diagrams etc....  

michael_bromley

I'm not sure if this has gone anywhere.  We design and build our own equipment and it would be awesome to be able to create and track the wiring schematics within Onshape as well as our mechanical drawings.

mark_sluser

I end up having to use AutoCAD for electrical enclosures and routing of cables. I would love to use OnShape for this use case. Is there any plans to equip  OnShape with some 2D capabilities to draw basic shapes that are associated to 3d parts ? Like a terminal block, or PLC IO module? 

david_roberts

I'd like this capability as well.  Having a wiring harness "schematic" native to Onshape would be really convenient.

Marvin

Does OnShape provide good 2D drawing functionality in conjunction with a symbol catalog?
What I am searching for is a consolidated CAD tool that would provide basic modeling & assembly functionality (OnShape seems to provide this) but also good 2D drawing support (direct draft without requiring an associated model/assembly). A fully featured P&ID or Electrical schematics system that sits on a database is not required, but it would be nice if a 2D symbol catalog could be created and symbols plopped into 2D drawings.

michael3424

Marvin said:

...but it would be nice if a 2D symbol catalog could be created and symbols plopped into 2D drawings.

Microsoft's Visio has a number of engineering templates, some of which are specific to creating PFDs and P&IDs.  I use to create very simple schematics for R&D projects but it looks like it could be fairly powerful if one expended the effort to create custom tool bars and templates for your specific workflow.  I use Visio 2010 so it may have been upgraded significantly since then.  Here's a link to give you an idea of what it does and a general idea of how it works:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/create-a-p-id-or-pfd-1867e7bd-7bef-4dec-b4c4-28d1c6d954ee

leecasey

I've just spent the last week, trying to convert from Creo to OnShape and just realised I need to do P&ID's. Guess I'm going to have to wait until Creo+ (Creo Cloud) lands next year.

NeilCooke

@leecasey there is a partner app, "Electra" that can do P&IDs

Jonathan_Schwartz

@NeilCooke is there a replacement partner app to "Electra"

NeilCooke

@Jonathan_Schwartz not in the app store, but you can still use the product https://www.dex.siemens.com/plm/capital-electra-x

Ned_Baddeley

This is a shame that Onshape doesn't seem to support native 2d schematic drawings. Considering when doing harnesses in 3d you need to upload a "from-to" .csv and define connectors, all the information to generate a very useful schematic is already loaded in. I'm imagining it wouldn't be too much more work to create this functionality.

@NeilCooke is there any chance of implementing something in the future? Missing pin-to-pin information presented in a easily legible way from a harness drawings is a deal breaker in using Onshape for harnesses for my company.