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How to Mate these Parts?
Don_Van_Zile
Member Posts: 195 PRO
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I have 2 Instances of the Links (gray) that I would like to have the Pin mated cylindrical and centered between as shown in the pics below.
I tried to create an "implicit" Mate Connector between the 2 Links, but cannot because the error says they can't be from the same instances (as shown below).
What's the best suggestion on how to mate this scenario with that design intent in mind. I want to avoid offsetting by an input distance to keep the Pin centered between the 2 links because that may change and I want the system to deal with that math as the design changes.
Thank in advance for any guidance.
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brucebartlett Member, OS Professional, Mentor, User Group Leader Posts: 2,141 PROIn your assembly creating mate connector using the between setting across 2 instances seems like the obvious solution and not sure why it hasn't been allowed.
Not the ideal solution but can you mate to the hole with a cylindrical mate and position central with a planar mate off the central mate connector on the pin and the central mate connector in the purple parts pin hole.
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Not the ideal solution but can you mate to the hole with a cylindrical mate and position central with a planar mate off the central mate connector on the pin and the central mate connector in the purple parts pin hole.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJBkMytVI-o
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/aeb2995e3630b634343bfff4/w/fb7b492387a8063f23ba8e25/e/249fa2e265b0ad56cf3825b7
HWM-Water Ltd
In the past, I have used the studio modeled mate connectors for things like this but it annoys me when I have parts that end up with mate connector that hang out in random positions if the same part is used elsewhere in the assembly.
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HWM-Water Ltd
Go for it with the IR @owen_sparks I'll vote
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So will I!
IR for AS/NZS 1100
Create two cylindrical mates - one between the pin and the hole on one part and the same on the other. Then set a linear relation of 1 between those two mates. Genius!
HWM-Water Ltd
-in an assy
-there's only one part in the assy, there are many instances of that part
-mate connector between instances of a part won't work
Currently they have to be 2 different parts, not instances of the same part.
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/aeb2995e3630b634343bfff4/w/fb7b492387a8063f23ba8e25/e/249fa2e265b0ad56cf3825b7
larry_hawes said: I believe you're referring to the toggle clamp within the Learning Path example. However, this is a single part and not two instances. I originally thought the same thing.
Bruce's solution gets me what I want, but I agree that it's not ideal... The workflow I was trying to do that doesn't "currently" work is what I'm after.
Thanks Owen for the IR.
Bruce, you're a genius!
You're right.
-in an assy
-2 different parts
-mate connector between 2 different parts, doesn't work
It would seem like bad practice to go between 2 parts (same instance or not) that are floating or have all degrees of freedom open. However, adding mates limiting this freedom is the reason for adding mates and creating mate connectors! I suppose it would depend on how many degrees of freedom are open for this to make sense. In my example (OP), the "Between Entities" are mated to always be Parallel to each other based on other mate connectors which would make sense to be allowed.
So I created a pin in context that'll expand as link are moved apart keeping link centered:
Design link part in-context with assy:
This seems a little complicated.
FYI
I tried using a sketch via incontext (sketch will update based on links position):
Reading @larry_hawes post, I could have used the 3D spline feature script and not forced a plane, line & midpoint. This would've / could've allowed the mating links to be anywhere & any orientation satisfying Larry's want. Except the line, curve or wire won't work with mate connectors because it's not a solid.
I'm trying to keep this assignment small, neat & understandable. Mate connectors must attach to a solid body.
Did you post? Looking for webinar "Billy2 the magnificent".
You know, there's going to be a lot of assembly use cases. Please keep in mind that these are obvious things a user will do and in the end, OS will be better. We all have the same end goal.
bug vs. IR, kindly & sorry, from your perspective it's not working as intended and it's an IR, from a users perspective it's a bug. I'm hoping these things are lifted up in status with higher priority sooner than your IR process.
https://www.onshape.com/videos/onshape-assemblies-for-solidworks-users-071018