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Improvements to Onshape - October 20th, 2018

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  • Jake_Rosenfeld
    Jake_Rosenfeld image
    Wouldn't be fair to all of our users if Jake and I made enemies of one another :grin::grin:
    Jake Rosenfeld - Modeling Team
  • philip_thomas
    philip_thomas image
    @Stefan_DMS - that's a really good idea, please submit it as an enhancement request.
    Philip Thomas - Onshape
  • romeograham
    romeograham PRO
    mbartlett21 said:
    romeo_graham392 said:
    jakeramsley said:
    owen_sparks said:
    Nice, very much like the set custom property feature.
    Thanks folks,
    Owen S.
    Hi owen_sparks,

    This is a document my coworker Jason Slingerland put together for a couple examples (it uses standard properties and his company owned property, but can be easily modified).  The bounding box is put in Title 2 property and mass is put in Title 3.  This isn't meant to be how computed properties are done, but is an understandable example of how to use setting custom properties.

    https://cad.onshape.com/documents/0ce17b6f297c6baae1ea4f31/w/bf0718cfe1b17361423f8bb1/e/07de51f875e8975ca4de848c
    @jakeramsley do you have any idea how to get the Mass property in this example to fill in the actual mass of the part? (the linked example allows you put put in a value, but doesn't return the calculated mass of the part).

    thanks!
    You can use this FS, which you can put a density or weight into and it will set the part's material
    https://cad.onshape.com/documents/3ca261a95938af152088fca8
    Thanks!
    That's a great update to your FS (which I looked at a while ago - but don't think it had this functionality. With this one, I can finally have part mass (weight) updating on drawings.

    Could you udpate it to be able to push the volume of the part as well? I'll poke around and see if I can get it to work in g/cm^3 (all my parts are under 2kg).

    Thanks again @mbartlett21

    Romeo
  • StephenG
    StephenG ✭✭✭
    I find it hard to believe that valuable development resources where wasted on Display States.

    I want to echo @john_mcclary 's post; one of the primary reasons to establish various hide/shown states of instances in an assembly is so it can be leveraged in a drawing. 

    According to     the recent "Ask Me Anything with Jon Hirschtick" webinar, assembly configuration are coming soon. "Display State" functionality is something that should be intrinsic to Assembly Configurations. Display State functionality has all the appearance of a band-aid; the sooner it is removed the better.

    Things are getting messy in the product: Assembly Context, Named Position and now Display State functionality all should be possible with a properly implemented Assembly Configuration capability.

    My confidence in Onshape's ability to focus on and deliver important missing functionality has been shaken.   
  • owen_sparks
    owen_sparks PRO
    I'd like to think that it's because Onshape are writing assembly configurations that we have display States.

    If the code was written for configs, and this bit was ready now, then I'm happy it was pushed on its own.  It's useful to me today, and I couldn't do it last week. Free upgrade.

    The only time I felt a hint of an unfinished feature bring released was v1 of sheet metal and that was right after the forum was flooded with "just release it already" comments...

    OwS
    Business Systems and Configuration Controller
    HWM-Water Ltd
  • MBartlett21
    MBartlett21 PRO
    @romeo_graham392
    I may be able to add that.
    Glad to see that it's useful! (I hadn't tested it with custom properties because I couldn't create any)
    mb - draftsman - also FS author: View FeatureScripts
    IR for AS/NZS 1100
  • billy2
    billy2 PRO
    @Stefan_DMS if you write up an enhancement, please add transparency to the wish list.



  • Stefan_DMS
    Stefan_DMS PRO
    philip_thomas said:
    @Stefan_DMS - that's a really good idea, please submit it as an enhancement request.
    Added here:

     https://forum.onshape.com/discussion/10368/cross-section-in-display-states/p1?new=1
  • Stefan_DMS
    Stefan_DMS PRO
    Just found this feature, don't know when it was updated but I love it. The auto check for drawing updates when versioning a part!! This is such a good feature, just wanted to post this so others can see more cool stuff about Onshape. 


  • romeograham
    romeograham PRO
    mbartlett21 said:
    @romeo_graham392
    I may be able to add that.
    Glad to see that it's useful! (I hadn't tested it with custom properties because I couldn't create any)
    It works well to get the weight on the drawing...but the decimals are bananas!:

    Is that an easy thing to limit (or give the user some control) ?

    Thanks again!
  • john_mcclary
    john_mcclary PRO
    romeo_graham392 said:
    mbartlett21 said:
    @romeo_graham392
    I may be able to add that.
    Glad to see that it's useful! (I hadn't tested it with custom properties because I couldn't create any)
    It works well to get the weight on the drawing...but the decimals are bananas!:

    Is that an easy thing to limit (or give the user some control) ?

    Thanks again!
    var mass = roundToPrecision(Mass / kg, 2);
  • MBartlett21
    MBartlett21 PRO
    Done:
    https://cad.onshape.com/documents/3ca261a95938af152088fca8
    mb - draftsman - also FS author: View FeatureScripts
    IR for AS/NZS 1100
  • romeograham
    romeograham PRO
    Wow @mbartlett21
    That's awesome!
    ...now...could you pull the density info from the Material property (if it's been set) ?

    Thanks for working on this featureScript!



  • john_mcclary
    john_mcclary PRO
    we have been talking about that on another thread. Onshape chimed in and said it ain't gonna happen.
    They are concerned about performance when the part studio updates (as I understand it)
  • Cache_River_Mill
    Cache_River_Mill PRO
    Onshape, this is excellent work. If you ever need a testimony, let us know!

    Thank you!
  • darren_7
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    cache_river_millworks said:
    Onshape, this is excellent work. If you ever need a testimony, let us know!

    Thank you!
    Much appreciated!  I will reach out to you in a private message.

  • romeograham
    romeograham PRO
    mbartlett21 said:
    Done:
    https://cad.onshape.com/documents/3ca261a95938af152088fca8
    I'm using this FeatureScript happily....

    However, I run into issues I think when there's already a value in my target Custom Properties that I put there manually before this FeatureScript came along. Basically, the FS doesn't seem to populate the field any more.

    I have tried deleting all values in the Custom Property, and using the FS again.

    Can you explain how it is supposed to work (in terms of pushing data to the Custom Properties (which I select by pasting in the ID) ? 

    How / when does it push the information to the custom property? 

    Thanks again!
    Romeo
  • romeograham
    romeograham PRO
    john_mcclary said:
    we have been talking about that on another thread. Onshape chimed in and said it ain't gonna happen.
    They are concerned about performance when the part studio updates (as I understand it)
    Are you referring to my request to pull density data? OR something else?

  • MBartlett21
    MBartlett21 PRO
    @romeo_graham392

    Once you have set a custom property, you cannot clear it.
    There was a discussion somewhere else on the forum about it and Onshape said they were working on a solution.
    mb - draftsman - also FS author: View FeatureScripts
    IR for AS/NZS 1100
  • john_mcclary
    john_mcclary PRO
    @romeo_graham392
    Referring to pulling material density information from a part. They are afraid it would cause too many part updates/regens that would slow down the document.
  • ilya_baran
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    @romeo_graham392

    @mbartlett21 is correct -- a manually set part property will override any FeatureScript-set part property and there's no way to clear it (support can do it, but only by deleting all manually-set part properties from a part studio).  We are working on a solution.
    Ilya Baran \ VP, Architecture and FeatureScript \ Onshape Inc
  • romeograham
    romeograham PRO
    @ilya_baran
    Thanks.
    That is a real bummer - I hope that you can find a solution for that. It seems that the only time we can use this FS is once we are 100% sure we aren't going to make any changes to the part (and that the mass will not change)....which kind of defeats the purpose. There is enormous utility (for me) in being able to see a mass or volume update on a drawing as I make changes, and as a design evolves.

    However, I can override the FS-set value in a Custom Property and type in my own (non-updating) value, right?

    So my workflow must be (if I want to use @mbartlett21 's FS) is to ensure that I've never put any value in the Custom Property (like, Mass) that the FS is going to populate....then I can use the FS. Any other use case: I have to put the value in manually.

    Thanks
    Romeo
  • Eric_Gauthier
    Eric_Gauthier ✭✭

    Enfin la version en français! (Mes vacances sont vraiment terminées...😉)

    N'hésitez pas à aimer la vidéo et à la partager avec vos amis!

    https://youtu.be/ITkznz9eVHo

  • MBartlett21
    MBartlett21 PRO
    edited November 2018
    Re:
    @mbartlett21 is correct -- a manually set part property will override any FeatureScript-set part property and there's no way to clear it (support can do it, but only by deleting all manually-set part properties from a part studio).  We are working on a solution.
    @ilya_baran
    Is there a way to do it from the API?
    mb - draftsman - also FS author: View FeatureScripts
    IR for AS/NZS 1100
  • ilya_baran
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    @mbartlett21
    I don't believe so.
    Ilya Baran \ VP, Architecture and FeatureScript \ Onshape Inc
  • owen_sparks
    owen_sparks PRO
    Apropos of nothing how is the stress level in Massachusetts today?
    Business Systems and Configuration Controller
    HWM-Water Ltd
  • brucebartlett
    brucebartlett PRO
    owen_sparks said:
    Apropos of nothing how is the stress level in Massachusetts today?
    Hopefully, they are configurable stress levels
    Engineer ı Product Designer ı Onshape Consulting Partner
    Twitter: @onshapetricks  & @babart1977   
  • john_mcclary
    john_mcclary PRO
    brucebartlett said:
    owen_sparks said:
    Apropos of nothing how is the stress level in Massachusetts today?
    Hopefully, they are configurable stress levels
    ICWUTUDIDTHAR

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