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But I do understand that the order is better to first bring interdocument linking (use parts from other docs) because most likely we would need the same tag/folder/search tool to find right document in that context too.
FWIW Fusion has folders and search. As does SolidWorks via the Windows file system.
Databases come in many flavors (the classic filesystem is just one example of a hierarchical type), including hierarchical, flat, relational and key-pair. Not sure why there can be only one column in the database to hold tags such as user. Most implementations would use a link table so that you can have as many tags as you want, so for instance instead of having a document only searchable by one user, you could make it (if policy allowed) that it could search every user associated with that document, and then you may have a second flag which is owner so that of all the users one is the primary owner (we do this in our EHR so that all the doctors taking care of a patient are joined but only one is attending-of-record at a time).
So not sure that thinking about files/folders and tags as ever being different means anything. Folders are simply a visual construct we use for groupings of things, just like tags.
_Dave_
@_dave_ Naming tags would be just like naming folder, it's the id behind that ties things together and name is just name which you can modify as much as you like.. No need to relocate anything, all tags with same id update together.
I suppose you would like to list things in multiple ways: all docs in project, all standard parts, parts sent to manufacturing, etc..
Tag system doesn't make Onshape look like social media, it could be like traditional file system but with the benefit of putting 'same file into multiple folders' without making any copies. And there could be also automatic tags which would ease up searching.
_Dave_
_Dave_
Again, I will point out that directories are just tags, except we display them to you the user as a physical folder. The advantage of thinking about them as tags, is that tags typically allow more than one per file. So you can make tags that display either as a folder or a text-tag or both (just a flag on the tag). And for that matter you could have the same file live (since folders = tags) in multiple directories.
How can this work? well OS X has had that for years. You can have a word document in folder "my daily work" and then make a smart-folder who's definition is to hold all word documents. That same file appears in both places, even though there is but one file on disk. please separate the user model (how you assign things to folders/tags) and what the internal model is. As you can see by this example, I recently purchased a SuperPID for my CNC, so I am using the SuperPID term to define a smart-folder (the fact that in reality OS X is not creating a directory in the unix file system, but using tags is irrelevant to me) as you can see it isn't even holding all "real" files, since emails regarding my CNC's PID are in outlook, not even sure what the LDAP files are, plus the instructions PDF are all over the disk.
But I can also explicitly tag things with that term (which will magically also show up in my new smart folder, if they don't obviously have to do with my SuperPID by content (say a photo of my SuperPID)
I think document properties should be accessible from doc list. For search and edit.
Has an alternative I could just create links to the Onshape doc in the windows file manager, Just that it's more effort that i'd want. About as much as creating tags I suppose. Oh well
Keep On_Shaping
_Dave_
I hope we get "folders" or some type of organization system at both the document level and the studio level. The tabs across the bottom are starting to get cumbersome. It would be nice to organize them in a meaningful way.
I agree. This should be implemented in a way or another from day one.
About who cares what, I suppose those of us who 'play' with database stuff in our own end like to comment how things could work behind the scene. And those who don't wan't to struggle or give second thought on this matter simply ask traditional (someone might say ancient) folders.
But I think we all agree that infinite scrolling in documents, tabs, feature list, part list or any list must have grouping solution asap.
Some form of grouping would be preferable sooner than later....
Company / Client
Design Type
etc.
I created an improvement request for an advanced search a while back.
You can vote it up here: https://onshape.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/210545607-Advanced-Document-Search
Definitely something that is needed.
With all respect, I disagree. I like the fact that they don't push features because they have it on public roadmap but rather they listen to users and push stuff what we need right now. Ok, maybe they could shred some light on bigger features like configurations, sheetmetal etc..
I'm going to get shot for this, another down vote I'm sure, write it yourself?
With the API and a simple database you can make Onshape slice and dice your IP any way you want. You can even track who's doing what.
I'm serious, this is about a day's effort. Launch from your own website. Organize it any way you want. Hell, you can even authenticate through onshape to keep the bad people out. This is really simple to do and you'll get exactly what you want. I fear that what you want isn't what I want.
Hire Henry to write it so it looks and runs like a mac.
Basically Onshape are working on being able to both share 'labels' across an organisation and being able to view the labels within created folders. I also found out about the 'tab manager' function in a document which is a great way to organise parts/assemblies/drawings within here. Definitely worth a watch.