Seeing the red

brucebartlett

Anybody got any good tips for seeing the red failed features?

My eyes find it really hard to distinguish the light red to grey when trying to find failed features. 

EvanReese

Nope, but I would really like Onshape to add the ability to filter the feature tree to only show features with errors. It wouldn't perfectly solve your issue, but it would help a lot I bet.

steve_shubin

@brucebartlett

Anybody got any good tips for seeing the red failed features?

My eyes find it really hard to distinguish the light red to grey when trying to find failed features. 

I don’t know if what I have is a good idea. It might help you a LITTLE bit

I’ve got some different blue blocker reader glasses.

In the picture ——

the top ones block something like 93% of the blue light

The middle ones, I can’t remember. I think they block maybe 33% of the blue light

The bottom ones do not have any blue light blocking feature at all. They are just standard reader glasses

when I use the middle ones. The ones that have a slight slight yellow tint, they seem like they make the red look a little bit redder and slightly easier to see the red color

If I use the top ones, that block most of the blue light — they don’t seem to help me at all as far as seeing the red 

brucebartlett

Evan_Reese said:

Nope, but I would really like Onshape to add the ability to filter the feature tree to only show features with errors. It wouldn't perfectly solve your issue, but it would help a lot I bet.

Yes, that would help heaps. 

brucebartlett

Good Idea @steve_shubin. I'll ask my optometrists about this and see if I can get some screen glasses. 

james_bonney

Perhaps onshape could provide an additional visual cue.  The feature name text could change to be italicized or the feature icon could change to indicate that it is broken.

chadstoltzfus

This is not necessarily a great solution as I also share the belief that there should be more accessibility options in Onshape but if you are using Chrome/Firefox there are several great extensions that can change the color scheme of websites. These are not always guaranteed to work, but I have had great success using a Chrome extension called Dark Reader, which has given me a fairly stable and clean dark theme for Onshape.

jamescbonney

I realized in assemblies we get a nice little alert icon. Perhaps this could be integrated into part studio feature errors.

Ex:

shawn_crocker

Maybe you can create a template in your monitor settings that you set to boost red or exaggerate contrast or something.

Marc_Miller

jamescbonney said:

I realized in assemblies we get a nice little alert icon. Perhaps this could be integrated into part studio feature errors.

Ex:

I like this idea a lot.

nick_papageorge_dayjob

Plus one. I'm colorblind and always have trouble with this. Coming from an old UX of using Creo the past 20 years to Onshape, is refreshing. However, when something was failed in Creo, it stuck out like a sore thumb. In Onshape, it sure is prettier to look at, but in an example like this, its hard to differentiate.

PS, over the years I've tried all the color filters built into the operating systems (Win and Mac), and also the "color correcting" glasses. None of them in my experience have been worth anything. I always end up at the default operating system color settings. 

brucebartlett

@jamescbonney Alert icons would really help. I never find it a problem in assemblies.

@nick_papageorge073 I think you're correct, none of the changes with colours or filter helps much, it needs to be in the icon shape.

Marc_Miller

If there's an IR I'd be happy to up arrow this one.

aholmes

chadstoltzfus said:

This is not necessarily a great solution as I also share the belief that there should be more accessibility options in Onshape but if you are using Chrome/Firefox there are several great extensions that can change the color scheme of websites. These are not always guaranteed to work, but I have had great success using a Chrome extension called Dark Reader, which has given me a fairly stable and clean dark theme for Onshape.

Hey @chadstoltzfus , we are thinking about ways that Onshape can be more accessible over time. We realize the error indications here should be denoted by more than just color, but are there any other accessibility related issues that you were thinking about?

Andrew Holmes

UX/Support Team

nick_papageorge_dayjob

aholmes said:

Hey @chadstoltzfus , we are thinking about ways that Onshape can be more accessible over time. We realize the error indications here should be denoted by more than just color, but are there any other accessibility related issues that you were thinking about?

Andrew Holmes

UX/Support Team

I did a formal ticket for this item a couple weeks ago and it got added as a feature request, but it might also be applicable to what you are asking here: Add a setting to turn off pre-highlighting when you are moving your mouse around the screen. During a screen-share, or even discussing a design with a colleague standing next to you and both looking at the screen, I like to use the mouse as a pointer to focus attention to what we are talking about. The way it is now, it highlights whatever the mouse is near, and makes the conversation confusing to follow because the whole screen lights up. On Creo, you can change the selection filter to "annotations" (and there are almost never any), which means when you move the mouse around all you see is the design and the mouse pointer. If something like that could be added to onshape, it would make collaborating with others much easier. IMO:) Thanks.

nick_papageorge_dayjob

I wold like to add as a colorblind user, the sketcher colors are great. I always had trouble in Creo inside sketcher. But in Onshape its easy to see things.

chadstoltzfus

aholmes said:

Hey @chadstoltzfus , we are thinking about ways that Onshape can be more accessible over time. We realize the error indications here should be denoted by more than just color, but are there any other accessibility related issues that you were thinking about?

Andrew Holmes

UX/Support Team

Thanks for following up @aholmes . I think some more options for how the Onshape environment looks is always a good start. I know high contrast mode on windows doesn't seem to apply to the geometry in Part Studios(thought that could be on WebGL's end). I know this has also been brought up on the forums but for me personally looking at a white screen for the entirety of my day can be straining after a few hours (I live in Feature Studios and Part Studios almost exclusively). 

Cary_Bettenhausen

aholmes said:

chadstoltzfus said:

This is not necessarily a great solution as I also share the belief that there should be more accessibility options in Onshape but if you are using Chrome/Firefox there are several great extensions that can change the color scheme of websites. These are not always guaranteed to work, but I have had great success using a Chrome extension called Dark Reader, which has given me a fairly stable and clean dark theme for Onshape.

Hey @chadstoltzfus , we are thinking about ways that Onshape can be more accessible over time. We realize the error indications here should be denoted by more than just color, but are there any other accessibility related issues that you were thinking about?

Andrew Holmes

UX/Support Team

Andrew, I just now had a colleague with the same issue. He cannot see the red color of failed features in a Part Studio. Is there a fix in the works for this? Thanks!

eric_pesty

Partial solution only but you can now filter the tree:

CFried

aholmes said:

chadstoltzfus said:

This is not necessarily a great solution as I also share the belief that there should be more accessibility options in Onshape but if you are using Chrome/Firefox there are several great extensions that can change the color scheme of websites. These are not always guaranteed to work, but I have had great success using a Chrome extension called Dark Reader, which has given me a fairly stable and clean dark theme for Onshape.

Hey @chadstoltzfus , we are thinking about ways that Onshape can be more accessible over time. We realize the error indications here should be denoted by more than just color, but are there any other accessibility related issues that you were thinking about?

Andrew Holmes

UX/Support Team

That error filter helps a lot, same for the message up top, but regeneration errors are still "hard to see" (for colorblind people).

Is there any reason why underlining/highlighting or a symbol wouldn't work? Blue text would also be a good option but would change a lot of the UI.

Here are some color pallets that would work for almost everyone:

https://davidmathlogic.com/colorblind/##D81B60-#1E88E5-#FFC107-#004D40

S1mon

I'm not colorblind, but I find the blue (unconstrained) color hard to differentiate in the sketcher sometimes, especially when it's just an endpoint of a black line. It seems like a bunch of the UI colors could use a bit of fine tuning.

rick_randall

chadstoltzfus said:

 I know this has also been brought up on the forums but for me personally looking at a white screen for the entirety of my day can be straining after a few hours (I live in Feature Studios and Part Studios almost exclusively). 

Please allow us to change background color to the standard color palette choices - then we can pick our own background color to relieve eye strain, and maybe this would help the red "pop/contrast" a little more.