Sheet Metal Model - Extrude - End Type Options

Anthony_Sharp

This may be on your to-do list already, but the lack of end type options in the "Sheet metal model - Extrude" feature is the biggest limitation I noticed when testing OnShape for potential use in our company.  The standard Extrude feature has Blind, Symmetric, Up to next, Up to face, Up to part, Up to vertex, and Through all options whereas the "Sheet metal model - Extrude" feature only has Blind and Symmetric.  Drawing a profile sketch and extruding is the fastest way to model a linear sheet metal part, and the lack of end type options makes it harder to use in a multi-part studio scenario where length needs to be based on other parts.  Especially when that studio will need dimensions adjusted or configured.


Thanks!

michael_mcclain

You can put in an improvement request using the feedback tool. There may already be one, but I also agree that this functionality should be added in. It seems like something that should be present for adequate design intent of a model

brucebartlett

I agree. I'd like to see this too it makes sense to me that it should be the same as the standard extrude feature. 

Jake_Rosenfeld

Improvement requests are more useful submitted through the "Improvement Requests" section of this forum rather than the "Feedback" tool.  Feedback will log one ticket with us for yourself (and is useful for submitting bugs or questions), but posting an improvement request allows other users to vote on the request and also make their voice heard.  Each of those votes then adds another user ticket in our system and increases the priority of the request.

MBartlett21

@Anthony_Sharp
@Jake_Rosenfeld
@brucebartlett

I have made a featurescript here based on the SM model feature that adds more extrude end type options.

I have added "Up to face" and "Up to part" as options.

Please give me feedback on the feature.

MBartlett21

@Jake_Rosenfeld
@brucebartlett

I have now added a "second direction" option.
I have also added an option to offset from the face or part.

A link to the new version is here:

https://cad.onshape.com/documents/a39db7615a2a945ffb7076c3/v/ba3814b79b9f9de2f3e0df0e/e/dd6b70b441c40ff6bc4c8664

Please send me feedback on this feature.

Maybe this could be incorporated into the Onshape feature library.

lana

@mbartlett21
Very nicely done. That is pretty much how we would do this. Thank you for doing this. It is interesting that you've added the second direction as well. Sheet metal Model menu is very busy. Do you think second direction option is sufficiently useful to justify  additional controls in that dialog? 

brucebartlett

lana said:

@mbartlett21
Very nicely done. That is pretty much how we would do this. Thank you for doing this. It is interesting that you've added the second direction as well. Sheet metal Model menu is very busy. Do you think second direction option is sufficiently useful to justify  additional controls in that dialog? 

I think the second end condition could be useful.

I also like to be able to select up to vertex, this is ideal for link to layout sketches

MBartlett21

@brucebartlett

I could try to incorporate that into the feature.

MBartlett21

brucebartlett said:

I think the second end condition could be useful.

It would be useful for offsetting from the sketch plane. That is what I would use it for.

MBartlett21

@brucebartlett

I can't use up to vertex as it isn't supported by the opExtrude() function.

I'll try to find a workaround.

MBartlett21

Version 1.5 released

Link here:

https://cad.onshape.com/documents/a39db7615a2a945ffb7076c3/v/640d1b2114941c261032250e/e/dd6b70b441c40ff6bc4c8664

Up to vertex added.

NeilCooke

@mbartlett21 to do up to vertex, measure the distance and make the extrude blind. That's how it works in extrude.

ilya_baran

@lana
I think the conclusion is that users want every conceivable option at once in a small, clean, and simple dialog 

owen_sparks

Also if you have a spare 5 minutes then you if you could move onto world peace, the moon on a stick and a stable version of windows then that'd be just awesome.

Cheers, OwS.

lana

mbartlett21 
brucebartlett 
Thank you for your response.

MBartlett21

@lana
I would very much like it if you could have scrollbars in feature dialogue boxes, as well as indents.

MBartlett21

NeilCooke said:

@mbartlett21 to do up to vertex, measure the distance and make the extrude blind. That's how it works in extrude.

@NeilCooke

Actually, it does it in a slightly different way in the extrude() feature.

It makes a plane and sets the end condition to "Up to surface".

definition.endBoundEntity = createVertexBoundaryPlane(context, definition, vertexPlaneId);
definition.endBound = BoundingType.UP_TO_SURFACE;

Also, in the standard library documentation:
 <- Read

NeilCooke

Well, using blind is how I would do it 

MBartlett21

@NeilCooke
@lana
@brucebartlett
@Jake_Rosenfeld
@Anthony_Sharp
@owen_sparks
@ilya_baran
@michael_mcclain

I have fixed a bug with the feature:
When "Up to vertex" was selected, it created a plane at the vertex.
I have also updated the FS version to 765.

A link to the new version is here:
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/a39db7615a2a945ffb7076c3/v/64ff265a8c16a316f2363426/

lana

Thank you @mbartlett21

MBartlett21

@lana

How would I go about adding a manipulator at the other end of the extrude when i do a sheet metal model?

lana

Please check out extrudeManipulatorChange in extrude.fs , look for 

SECOND_DEPTH_MANIPULATOR. You might be able to re-use extrudeManipulatorChange, it is exported 

MBartlett21

@NeilCooke
@lana
@brucebartlett
@Jake_Rosenfeld
@Anthony_Sharp
@owen_sparks
@ilya_baran
@michael_mcclain

Bugfix released:
When symmetric was chosen, the feature would not work correctly
A link to the document is here: https://cad.onshape.com/documents/a39db7615a2a945ffb7076c3/

MBartlett21

owen_sparks said:

Also if you have a spare 5 minutes then you if you could move onto world peace, the moon on a stick and a stable version of windows then that'd be just awesome.

Cheers, OwS.

@owen_sparks
I am actually at school still, you know?

brucebartlett

mbartlett21 said:

owen_sparks said:

Also if you have a spare 5 minutes then you if you could move onto world peace, the moon on a stick and a stable version of windows then that'd be just awesome.

Cheers, OwS.

@owen_sparks
I am actually at school still, you know?

Great work! Good to see you passionate about Onshape at a young age. You'd be the perfect candidate for an Onshape internship.