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Improvements to Onshape - December 10th, 2020

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  • bsquaredbsquared Member Posts: 7 PRO
    The logo is awful. It looks very out of place. I get there is a shape on a shape (onshape), but really there was no need for a glyph. The old one was very fitting. 

    But anyway, the improvements are great! Thank you!
  • jeffrey_blumjeffrey_blum Member Posts: 1
    Definitely preferred the old logo but I get it. PTC wants uniformity in the logos of its software portfolio, so everything has to be a hexagon/isometric cube in two specific colors...it would probably help if the color scheme of the whole site and UI changed to match, but maybe that's too jarring all at once?
  • spiritriderspiritrider Member Posts: 22 PRO
    Love the proactive updates of OnShape! That said, as far as the LOGO...well...It seems like the new dog in the neighborhood, has to mark it's territory...thus a new logo. Not Loving it. Need to slap the dog... (this will likely send me to internet hell...)
  • Zane_MaccagnanoZane_Maccagnano Member Posts: 1 PRO
    I do not like the logo...this is PTC pushing their way into and messing with something that works.  I think they need to stand down. 

    PTC did similar things to Mathcad when they bought that software many years ago...but the changes to Mathcad weren't just superficial like logo changes.  They massively increased the price, the support/help team became competent and more difficult to access, licenses and software administration became orders of magnitude more difficult.  In addition, they completely rebuilt the math engine from the ground up which reduced the features for many years.

    I was concerned when I learned that PTC had bought Onshape and I received many assurances that PTC was not going to interfere with Onshape.  I based my recommendation that our company go with this Onshape on this information....I hope I was not misled.
  • derek_herbertderek_herbert Member Posts: 1
    The new logo is AWESOME! I actually thought the old one was boring, just blue text. This new logo is really cool! I had to look up PTC and I can see how some elements were borrowed from the parent company logo. Anyway, it looks good! 
  • matthew_vilimmatthew_vilim Member Posts: 9 EDU
    PLEASE get rid of the blue and green colour scheme. I really can't believe that is a thing.

    commit one way or the other.

    No! We just need a little red mixed in too, and it will be perfect!
  • Ryan_McClellandRyan_McClelland Member Posts: 15 PRO
    The new logo is ok, not a huge fan of it though.
    PTC stodginess creeping in.
  • MichaelPascoeMichaelPascoe Member Posts: 322 PRO
    The new logo is AWESOME! I actually thought the old one was boring, just blue text. This new logo is really cool! I had to look up PTC and I can see how some elements were borrowed from the parent company logo. Anyway, it looks good! 
    Derek, Where do you live, exactly?

    kidding!  ;)
  • jacques_spillmannjacques_spillmann OS Professional Posts: 33 PRO
    Very disappointed with the new logo, feels like a 10 year leap but in the past... the blue logo was so cool, why change it?
    You guys should have done a survey online, it would have been a clear choice
  • MichaelPascoeMichaelPascoe Member Posts: 322 PRO
    @john_mcclary
    You are right. The Onshape team is amazing and they deliver a great product. Very grateful to have them around.
    I understand wanting branding. I'm over it.

    But beyond that, I hope PTC becomes more of a silent owner...
    Onshape is where it is today because the staff is amazing and the community cares about the product to give helpful feedback. We give the feedback because Onshape listens and answers every message. I feel if PTC takes over, everything will fall on deaf ears.

    PTC should let Onshape continue to be awesome by doing what they do best. Listen and deliver. PTC can just sit back and collect the paycheck.

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  • romeograhamromeograham Member Posts: 549 PRO
    Variables is great - particularly that you can create Feature OR Configuration variables on the fly! This is very close (and probably better) than the IR to be able to "link" dimensions. This effectively allows dimension linking that ALSO gives you full-featured variables on the fly.

    Logo - whatever...I agree that contrast / readability is an issue (Blue is better than this green), but as others have said - the team at Onshape is great, regardless of the logo they labor under. Large scale corporate amalgamations are tough enough, let alone product integration. Let's hope this signals some merging of the great stuff from Onshape with some of the capability of Creo.

    @brucebartlett Oh my goodness, you hit it on the head again with Release Management. Today: I have to make some minor updates to 4 parts. They are 3 levels down (Assy > SubAssy>3 different SubAssy) and there are 4 part drawings and 5 Assembly drawings that are affected. 
    I have been working this for hours! (doesn't help that I made 1 or two mistakes and released a couple parts too early). Now I'm working through a minimum of 3 separate releases (Release parts into released assemblies into top level released Assembly), and now updating the 9 drawings is taking forever.
    This type of workflow is just bonkers. Every single other day I LOVE Release Management - it makes keeping track of a few parts at a time very easy. 

    Keep up the great work Onshape team, and we'll see you next year with some great updates!
  • bruce_montgomery551bruce_montgomery551 Member Posts: 1 PRO
    I love the on-the-fly variables. It would be even better if it worked immediately when making a line, circle, etc. in a sketch. After drawing a line, for example, you can put the dimension in immediately, but cannot use the # character to create a variable. Instead you have to escape out of it and use the dimension tool to specify the line - in that case, it allows you to use the # character to create the variable. Still good but not perfect yet.
  • romeograhamromeograham Member Posts: 549 PRO
    @bruce_montgomery551 You can type a number in that dialog (because that's what it wants you to do), then immediately hit the backspace to remove the number...and now that dialog is ready to receive your # for a variable (or to make a new one).
    This tip comes from the capable and gracious @Evan_Reese !


  • Evan_ReeseEvan_Reese Member Posts: 856 PRO
    @bruce_montgomery551 You can type a number in that dialog (because that's what it wants you to do), then immediately hit the backspace to remove the number...and now that dialog is ready to receive your # for a variable (or to make a new one).
    This tip comes from the capable and gracious @Evan_Reese !


    I actually got this tip from @marcus_bernstein at an Onshape user group! 
    Evan Reese / Principal and Industrial Designer with Ovyl
    Website: ovyl.io
    Instagram: @evan.reese.designs
  • Nickolas_LockardNickolas_Lockard OS Professional Posts: 33 ✭✭
    edited December 2020
    Variables on the fly---it's so fly.
    Sketches snap to dimensions--it's making my reverse engineering take 1/15 the time. I love whoever did that.
    New logo....no, me like the old one!

    Here's my screen shot: now the OS logo is totally washed out, since so many companies want a green logo. Green is overdone, in my opinion! Now just TRY to find the OS logo:
  • John_McCormickJohn_McCormick Member Posts: 1
    I didn't even notice the logo until I read the update.  My subconscious must not be working - or maybe distracted by something else.  I have been a PTC customer for longer than I care to admit.  When PTC came out with their new logo a few years ago, all I could see was the "S" in the middle and didn't care for it at first.  I don't even pay attention to it anymore.  Welcome to the PTC family, Onshape.  I am sure that both packages will benefit from the venture.
      
  • brucebartlettbrucebartlett Member, OS Professional, Mentor, User Group Leader Posts: 2,080 PRO
    @romeograham yes release management works great for single-level but when it comes to multi-level becomes very frustrating to the point it is unviable to use due to huge time demands to make changes. For example, locking up the appearance in the release is a huge frustration to me, for example, I have a project that was fully released to about 5 levels and now has the wrong appearances on about 100 parts, I'd really like the colours to match the finished product so the CAD TLA looks close to the real product but can not justify the effort to re-release and ups the rev's which flow through to the manufacturing drawing which are not affected by appearance. Just simple task which should only take a few hours at the most will take me a week with release as it is at the moment. Hopefully next year these release management issues will get some attention to make it usable. 
    Engineer ı Product Designer ı Onshape Consulting Partner
    Twitter: @onshapetricks  & @babart1977   
  • romeograhamromeograham Member Posts: 549 PRO
    @Evan_Reese and you passed it on....Thanks! (The other one I find myself using from your sketching tips video is the midpoint constraint with 3 points...it's a subtle / powerful workflow).
  • Evan_ReeseEvan_Reese Member Posts: 856 PRO
    @Evan_Reese and you passed it on....Thanks! (The other one I find myself using from your sketching tips video is the midpoint constraint with 3 points...it's a subtle / powerful workflow).
    Now that one I can say I found out myself by dissecting the center point rectangle. I use it more often than I thought I might.
    Evan Reese / Principal and Industrial Designer with Ovyl
    Website: ovyl.io
    Instagram: @evan.reese.designs
  • brucebartlettbrucebartlett Member, OS Professional, Mentor, User Group Leader Posts: 2,080 PRO
    @Evan_Reese and you passed it on....Thanks! (The other one I find myself using from your sketching tips video is the midpoint constraint with 3 points...it's a subtle / powerful workflow).
    Now that one I can say I found out myself by dissecting the center point rectangle. I use it more often than I thought I might.
    Where do I find the video?

    Engineer ı Product Designer ı Onshape Consulting Partner
    Twitter: @onshapetricks  & @babart1977   
  • tony_459tony_459 Member Posts: 191 ✭✭✭
    Oh wow, variables on the fly! This will change the way I specify dimensions. I don't think I have an excuse to avoid variables anymore. Very, very cool.
  • tony_459tony_459 Member Posts: 191 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2020

    New logo, not good. The old color and logo were clean, bold, and inviting. Subconsciously, this will affect everyone's first impression of Onshape.
    Ha ha. Yep. GIF says it all.
    Hoping the new style trickle doesn't trickle down to the UI and to the forums. Anyone know what was wrong with the Onshape branding, other than it not being PTC's branding?
    Honda owns the Acura brand, Toyota owns the Lexus brand, Nissan owns the Infinity brand, and yet the parent companies seem just fine with their premium brands having their own distinct identities?
    I say PTC borrow a page from them and treat Onshape as its premium CAD line---complete with its own distinct identity, which, ta da, already exists, and it is just fine.
  • tony_459tony_459 Member Posts: 191 ✭✭✭
    Definitely preferred the old logo but I get it. PTC wants uniformity in the logos of its software portfolio, so everything has to be a hexagon/isometric cube in two specific colors...it would probably help if the color scheme of the whole site and UI changed to match, but maybe that's too jarring all at once?
    Shh... Let's not encourage them... Soon everything will be hexagonal cubes and white and green and that just cannot cannot be better...
  • emagdalenaC2iemagdalenaC2i Member, Developers, Channel partner Posts: 656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok, let's go green

    I just updated our website to match the new color.
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  • AuroraRonAuroraRon Member Posts: 112 PRO
    edited December 2020
    Poor decision on the logo. Green is often associated with health and growth. Blue is often associated with Trust, Dependable and Strenth. It is color psychology. https://www.oberlo.ca/blog/color-psychology-color-meanings


  • AuroraRonAuroraRon Member Posts: 112 PRO
    Agreed,  getting stuff out of Onshape has always been an issue.  Too much time spent trying to export and share. 
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