Sending a message to the owner

rune_thorsen229

Hi when finding something useful among the public documents I'd like to send a message to the owner like asking for permission to use the design or propose a collaboration.
How can I do that?

NeilCooke

Unfortunately, there is no way to do that - it would definitely be useful for collaboration. Content in Public documents is public domain so you don't need the owner's permission to use it. However, we have no control over what content is being uploaded and whether it is infringing somebody else's copyright.

NeilCooke

^ what Owen said. By default, the first tab is the one that is displayed when first opened, so if you put a PDF there, everyone will see it (Feature Studios do not display on mobile). You can also add information to the Document properties (in hamburger menu top left) that will display in the Document info panel on the Documents page, but that is not as obvious,

Jake_Rosenfeld

FYI for everyone posting links in this thread, the `/e/aa112233bb4455` portion identifies the tab, so once you copy and paste that, everone who clicks it is always going to go to the tab you were currently on when you copied the URL.  If you just go to say:
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/ea73831031c68a9ca068365e
The system will have to infer a tab for you.

So if you ever click a link with /e/ in it, the tab has already been chosen for you.

NeilCooke

Unfortunately, there is no way to do that - it would definitely be useful for collaboration. Content in Public documents is public domain so you don't need the owner's permission to use it. However, we have no control over what content is being uploaded and whether it is infringing somebody else's copyright.

rune_thorsen229

Thanks for your quick reply. Then if I want to give people an opportunity to codesign on opensource projects, where would you suggest to put my contact information?

owen_sparks

It's a bodge but you can use "FeatureStudios" to store plain text.

If you use the comment tags /* and */ at the start and end of the text then OS won't try and covert it into featurescript. 

Alternatively use a link tab to an external document that holds this info, or a PDF tab internally.

The harder part is making it obvious to the user that this information exists.  Some sort of "landing page" or "splash screen" would help here.

Cheers,

Owen S.

NeilCooke

^ what Owen said. By default, the first tab is the one that is displayed when first opened, so if you put a PDF there, everyone will see it (Feature Studios do not display on mobile). You can also add information to the Document properties (in hamburger menu top left) that will display in the Document info panel on the Documents page, but that is not as obvious,

rune_thorsen229

Hi Neil, negative. I just opened a random doc of the shared. It was NOT the first tab that was displayed but the 3'rd. (https://cad.onshape.com/documents/58235f06ec5f9e10edc676dc/w/282a1c673de4934bb346bbee/e/6490594eb6b6aaac5649f4bd)

owen_sparks

Indeed.  I thought it was the "last used" tab that the document opened at?

Owen S.

rune_thorsen229

However the idea of a PDF is not bad, is it the only format possible?. 

john_mcclary

By default if you open tte document from the Onshape document browser.  A link will take you directly to the tab it was created from.

rune_thorsen229

john_mcclary 
Negative, the tab it was created from doen't seem to matter as this was created firs with a Sketch then the PDF was added: https://cad.onshape.com/documents/0a30ad4b2556d4120059fb8f/w/be7effe649adf04ef4cbb4f5/e/a0bfa12ea865a6eba3c59978

rune_thorsen229

NeilCooke, may I ask you if it is possible to view the public onshape documents without signing in. For example I referenced a drawing (https://goo.gl/hD9NTT) in our publication https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/KZSRCKIETT2HABTI9DSF/full?target=10.1080/10400435.2019.1634660
But I realized that you don't give view access to public documents. If thats the case, it is A GREAT PITY (I guess google documents beat you on that ;-) 

owen_sparks

rune_thorsen229 said:

Negative also on that: https://cad.onshape.com/documents/0a30ad4b2556d4120059fb8f/w/be7effe649adf04ef4cbb4f5/e/a0bfa12ea865a6eba3c59978

Your link took me to the pdf page sucessfully.  If you're seeing different it's possibly because you're the owner.  What happens if you open in in incognito mode?

rune_thorsen229

owen_sparks said:

Your link took me to the pdf page sucessfully.  If you're seeing different it's possibly because you're the owner.  What happens if you open in in incognito mode?

Thanks. I suddenly remembered that one has to take the link from the "link sharing tab" for this to work. 

NeilCooke

I'm pretty sure this is how it should work: if you've never opened a doc before, it will open at the first tab. If you have, it will open the last tab you had open. If you click a link it will go to the specific tab.

NeilCooke

rune_thorsen229 said:

NeilCooke, may I ask you if it is possible to view the public onshape documents without signing in. For example I referenced a drawing (https://goo.gl/hD9NTT) in our publication https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/KZSRCKIETT2HABTI9DSF/full?target=10.1080/10400435.2019.1634660
But I realized that you don't give view access to public documents. If thats the case, it is A GREAT PITY (I guess google documents beat you on that ;-) 

If you own the doc then you can link share with non-Onshape users, but you can't send the link to somebody else's public doc.

rune_thorsen229

NeilCooke said:

I'm pretty sure this is how it should work: if you've never opened a doc before, it will open at the first tab. If you have, it will open the last tab you had open. If you click a link it will go to the specific tab.

If I go incognito mode and open https://cad.onshape.com/documents/ea73831031c68a9ca068365e/w/1a01534a1adf03ae8d93868b/e/33a7d433c37c6c7fe2d4570d
It opens the tab: Stick_2.0
If I search FeatureScripBelt and open it, it opens first tab
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/57886eace4b0e425c1ef548a/w/54f180f432defb41a8fddb17/e/c65e445e89ee373617edc394
Opening tab belt.svg and closing.
Searching again it goes directly to belt.svg 
Conclusion: you may be right. 

By the way an exellent example of how to go around my initial question. Thank you so much everyone.
Rune

Jake_Rosenfeld

FYI for everyone posting links in this thread, the `/e/aa112233bb4455` portion identifies the tab, so once you copy and paste that, everone who clicks it is always going to go to the tab you were currently on when you copied the URL.  If you just go to say:
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/ea73831031c68a9ca068365e
The system will have to infer a tab for you.

So if you ever click a link with /e/ in it, the tab has already been chosen for you.

rune_thorsen229

Thanks Jake. Precious knowledge that you share.