Can't access Offset Mate using Fastened Mate

devon_sowell

Hello All-

I can't seem to access the Offset Mate dialog box using Fastened Mate, it doesn't display. Any tips?

Thanks in advance,
Devon Sowell

jakeramsley

Ace_Deuce said:

jramlsey said:

This is a screw up on our part.  This is a feature we were hoping to have ready for the last update but decided that it didn't fit the level of quality and user experience we intend for so we've decided not to release it yet.

Sorry for the confusion.

Just a comment, but offsetting a face of a part from another face in an assembly is basic. I shouldn't have to create a mate connector that is offset from a part just to achieve this. That just adds clutter to either the part tree or the assembly tree. I hope this feature (the offset check box in fastener mates) gets added soon. Other than that, the assembly process has been great.

It will be added in a future update.  We held it back because we didn't think the implementation met our standards for quality and user experience at the time, not because we didn't think it was something that should be in Onshape.  

brucebartlett

Interesting, I've never seen that offset check box. Makes sense though, better than offsetting the Mate Connector although that may have other benefits if changing mate type.

It's in the help, https://cad.onshape.com/help/#mate-fastened.htm updated the 9 of march. So I must be doing something wrong

I tried starting a new doc, I still don't see it. Onshape any idea's?

devon_sowell

Bruce the Mate Connector can be offset? I'll try that

devon_sowell

I just tried to Offset a Mate Connector in the Part Studio 9in along the Y axis and I got an error message & the Mate Connector was Red in the Tree.

james_mcpherson11762

I've been using the offset mate connector feature for this type of mate. Don't know why your's isn't working, but it's worked on all my tries so far.

-Jim

jakeramsley

This is a screw up on our part.  This is a feature we were hoping to have ready for the last update but decided that it didn't fit the level of quality and user experience we intend for so we've decided not to release it yet.

Sorry for the confusion.

devon_sowell

jramlsey no worries, thanks for the information

malay_kumar

Devon_Sowell said:

I just tried to Offset a Mate Connector in the Part Studio 9in along the Y axis and I got an error message & the Mate Connector was Red in the Tree.

Devon_Sowell: Can you let us know what error you are seeing in this case when you hover over the yellow mate connector in tree or dialog? In some cases if you are creating mate connector using sketch entity you will have to select owner part if system cannot determine owner part from the selected entities. 

ace_deuce

jramlsey said:

This is a screw up on our part.  This is a feature we were hoping to have ready for the last update but decided that it didn't fit the level of quality and user experience we intend for so we've decided not to release it yet.

Sorry for the confusion.

Just a comment, but offsetting a face of a part from another face in an assembly is basic. I shouldn't have to create a mate connector that is offset from a part just to achieve this. That just adds clutter to either the part tree or the assembly tree. I hope this feature (the offset check box in fastener mates) gets added soon. Other than that, the assembly process has been great.

devon_sowell

Hello Malay-

The error message disappears when I try to <Shift-Print Screen> the message says
"Mate connector 1 did regenerate properly: Cannot resolve entities." The Mate Connector is red as you can see. I picked the origin part. I'm still learning so perhaps I'm doing it wrong?

Thanks

jakeramsley

Ace_Deuce said:

jramlsey said:

This is a screw up on our part.  This is a feature we were hoping to have ready for the last update but decided that it didn't fit the level of quality and user experience we intend for so we've decided not to release it yet.

Sorry for the confusion.

Just a comment, but offsetting a face of a part from another face in an assembly is basic. I shouldn't have to create a mate connector that is offset from a part just to achieve this. That just adds clutter to either the part tree or the assembly tree. I hope this feature (the offset check box in fastener mates) gets added soon. Other than that, the assembly process has been great.

It will be added in a future update.  We held it back because we didn't think the implementation met our standards for quality and user experience at the time, not because we didn't think it was something that should be in Onshape.  

fernando_4

jramsley said:

This is a screw up on our part.  This is a feature we were hoping to have ready for the last update but decided that it didn't fit the level of quality and user experience we intend for so we've decided not to release it yet.

Sorry for the confusion.

I understand the importance of maintaining the level of quality of your product, but I expect this feature to be released soon, because it is important for our use.

lougallo

@Fernando you can do this now with creating a Mate connector and using the move command.  This new feature that is not there yet will make this a bit easier.

3dcad

Creating a mate connector with move command is quite handy, coming from Alibre I had made a dozen of planar mates for building a simple kitchen cabinet. It felt somehow clomsy so I forced myself to read manual and get into mate connectors - now same cabinet has 4 fastened mates, brilliant.

@LouGallo One question about moving mate connector, how do you know directions for x, y and z and what is positive/negative value direction without testing? First I assumed it's using global coordinates (which are visible on the cube at all time) but it's not.. 

jakeramsley

3dcad said:

@LouGallo One question about moving mate connector, how do you know directions for x, y and z and what is positive/negative value direction without testing? First I assumed it's using global coordinates (which are visible on the cube at all time) but it's not.. 

The mate connector graphic has RGB (x,y,z) axes associated to it when you inference one.  The offsets are in those directions.

The blue/z axis is always made normal to the face it is inferred from (outward facing), aligned with an edge, or aligned with the center of a cylindrical face.

brucebartlett

Good one @jramsley , I will have to etch that into my memory, RGB = XYZ, is this any where else in Onshape?

jakeramsley

BruceBartlett said:

Good one @jramsley , I will have to etch that into my memory, RGB = XYZ, is this any where else in Onshape?

You can see it on the view cube as well as the measure graphics (i.e. highlighting a length/distance delta in the measure area).  

RGB = xyz is pretty standard for CAD as you'll see it in SolidWorks, Solid Edge, Inventor, and NX.  

brucebartlett

@jramsleyI've never really taken that much notice, normally I would just look for the xyz notation, however colour is probably already subliminally locked in my though, I'll take note from now on. 

3dcad

@jramsley  Ok, I wondered why mate connectors look like christmas decorations but that makes positioning very clear.. Thanks.