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Standard content component requests

Jason_SJason_S Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 140
We at Onshape are committed to helping our users get their job done. We released Standard content at the beginning of the year with enough components to get many users started, knowing that our content library will continue to evolve over time. We want to see what components users want to see next. 

Please let us know below what content you would like to see. A standard, a component name and a link to to the standard would help us a lot. Gathering reliable standards and modeling these components takes some time so please hold on as we get these out as soon as possible. 
QA Engineer - Onshape, Inc.
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  • owen_sparksowen_sparks Member, Developers Posts: 1,287 PRO
    Hi Jason, excellent :)

    Are we talking fasteners only at this stage or are we free to nominate other stuff like bearings, toggle clamps, USB connectors etc?

    Cheers,

    Owen S.
    Production Engineer
    HWM-Water Ltd
  • Jason_SJason_S Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 140
    Let's keep it to fasteners only right now. I totally recognize the need for other types of off the shelf components, but we have other plans in store for those.
    QA Engineer - Onshape, Inc.
  • larry_haweslarry_hawes Member Posts: 151 PRO
  • samuel_hollandsamuel_holland Member Posts: 9 PRO
    If we could get access to McMaster Carr's library of STEP/SLDPRT files that would be fantastic
  • larry_haweslarry_hawes Member Posts: 151 PRO
    Or maybe a smorgasboard approach...

    https://www.mcmaster.com/#screws/=1cr7tpz
  • larry_haweslarry_hawes Member Posts: 151 PRO
    Seriously was looking for a set screw the other day - hope that helps.
  • larry_haweslarry_hawes Member Posts: 151 PRO
    If we could get access to McMaster Carr's library of STEP/SLDPRT files that would be fantastic
    Looks like I posted right after you re: the McMaster Carr stuff. :)

    As an aside I would like this request for feedback to be more about what OS can offer natively rather than dealing with STEP and SLDPT files. Maybe that's too much to ask but it seems that is what they are asking for??
  • larry_haweslarry_hawes Member Posts: 151 PRO
    I'm needing these in a current design.

    https://www.mcmaster.com/#set-screws/=1cr8q76
  • Jason_SJason_S Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 140
    @larry_hawes ,
    1. Posting McMaster links without descriptions of what you are looking for doesn't help us help you. The links bring me to just the front of McMaster's screws/ set screws. Images with descriptions and standard names help us make sure we get the correct component.
    2. We support every set screw that Solidworks has in ANSI and ISO today. I don't know what you are looking for.
    The list of set screws we support includes:

    ANSI
    Slotted Set Screw Cone Point
    Slotted Set Screw Cup Point
    Slotted Set Screw Flat Point
    Slotted Set Screw Dog Point
    Slotted Set Screw Half Dog Point
    Slotted Set Screw Oval Point

    Square Head Set Screw Cone Point
    Square Head Set Screw Cup Point
    Square Head Set Screw Flat Point
    Square Head Set Screw Dog Point
    Square Head Set Screw Half Dog Point
    Square Head Set Screw Oval Point

    Socket Set Screw Cup Point
    Socket Set Screw Flat Point
    Socket Set Screw Half Dog Point
    Socket Set Screw Oval Point
    Socket Set Screw Cone Point

    ISO
    Slotted Set Screw Cone Point ISO 7434
    Slotted Set Screw Cup Point ISO 7436
    Slotted Set Screw Flat Point ISO 4766
    Slotted Set Screw Dog Point ISO 7435

    Socket Set Screw Cup Point ISO 4029
    Socket Set Screw Flat Point ISO 4026
    Socket Set Screw Dog Point ISO 4028
    Socket Set Screw Cone Point ISO 4027


    QA Engineer - Onshape, Inc.
  • larry_haweslarry_hawes Member Posts: 151 PRO
    My bad Jason, I was not aware of the entire screw list that you support. Looks excellent and am afraid I won't be able to add to your list until I come up against something that is not in the list. Thank you for explaining and demonstrating how complete the list already is.
  • robert_morrisrobert_morris OS Professional, Developers Posts: 125 PRO
    edited May 8
    DIN standard hardware would be great.
    I don't know all of the standard numbers, but here are some I've pulled from McMaster that I know I've used from there. I'm sure that there are others.

    Socket Head Cap Screws
    DIN 7984
    DIN 912

    Nylon Locking Nuts
    DIN 985

    Washers
    DIN 125

    Set Screws
    DIN 913
    DIN 916
  • bryan_lagrangebryan_lagrange Member Posts: 180 ✭✭✭
    Pressed in studs, nuts, standoffs. Example www.
    Pemnet.com 
    Bryan Lagrange
    Twitter: @BryanLAGdesign

  • owen_sparksowen_sparks Member, Developers Posts: 1,287 PRO
    Jason_S said:
    Let's keep it to fasteners only right now. I totally recognize the need for other types of off the shelf components, but we have other plans in store for those.
    Hi Jason, thanks understood.

    My first proposal is dowty washers also known as bonded seals.



    I'm afraid I've not found a standard yet.

    Cheers,

    Owen S,
    Production Engineer
    HWM-Water Ltd
  • dick_van_der_vaartdick_van_der_vaart Member Posts: 19 PRO
    These are my favorite's

    Din 7380
    Din 7991
    Din 6923

    Thanks
  • emagdalenaC2CemagdalenaC2C Member, Developers Posts: 301 ✭✭✭✭
    Equivalence between the DIN and ISO standards of the Onshape standard content:
    • DIN 125-1 A = ISO 7089 Plain washer normal grade A
    • DIN 438 = ISO 7436 Cup point slotted set screw
    • DIN 912 = ISO 4762 Hex socket head cap screw
    • DIN 913 = ISO 4026 Flat point hex socket set screw
    • DIN 914 = ISO 4027 Cone point hex socket set screw
    • DIN 915 = ISO 4028 Dog point hex socket set screw
    • DIN 916 = ISO 4029 Cup point hex socket set screw
    • DIN 931 = ISO 4014 Hex head bolt grade A & B
    • DIN 933 = ISO 4017 Hex head screw grade A & B
    • DIN 934-1 = ISO 4032 Hex nut grade A & B
    • DIN 934-2 = ISO 4033 Hex nut grade A & B
    • DIN 936 = ISO 4035 Hex thin nut grade A & B
    • DIN 985-1 = ISO 10511 Prevailing torque nut thin
    • DIN 985-2 = ISO 10512 Prevailing torque nut fine pitch
    • DIN 6923-1 = ISO 4161 Hex flange nut
    • DIN 7991 = ISO 10642 Hex socket countersunk head screw
    • DIN 9021 = ISO 7093 Plain washer large grade A
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  • emagdalenaC2CemagdalenaC2C Member, Developers Posts: 301 ✭✭✭✭
    These are other usual DIN / ISO elements that are not yet available in Onshape:
    • Hexagonal head screw with stamped washer. DIN 6921 = ISO 8100
    • Hexagonal head screw with stamped washer. DIN 6921 = ISO 8102
    • Screw point drill bit hexagonal head. DIN 7504K = ISO 15480
    • Hexagon screw, low head. DIN 7984
    • High blind nut. DIN 1587
    • Square nut. DIN 928
    • Nut in T. DIN 508
    • Hexagonal nut high. DIN 6330
    • Hexagonal nut with beveled collar. DIN 6923-2 = ISO 10663
    • KM nut. DIN 70852
    • Butterfly nut. DIN 315
    • Knurled nut high. DIN 466
    • Knurled nut low. DIN 467
    • Grower washer. DIN 127 B
    • Reinforced flat washer. DIN 6340
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  • KrzKrz Member, Developers Posts: 27 ✭✭
  • Jason_SJason_S Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 140
    Thanks all! This is a great start. Keep them coming.

    @owen_sparks I believe Intertraco is a supplier of the Dowty washers, and they own the IP of these fasteners (I may be mistaken). Much like Penn Engineering and the PEM® fasteners (https://www.pemnet.com/). 

    We cannot guarantee the accuracy of these fasteners if there is not an official standard to go off of. Otherwise we will have many users using our content and running into assembly issues after parts are already made because the vendor they ordered from was different than the one we chose. This is a situation no one wants.

    I know I have been bitten before when designing around an "official" model from my supplier in the past.

    @pete_yodis
    QA Engineer - Onshape, Inc.
  • Jason_SJason_S Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 140
    edited May 9
    Thanks @bryan_lagrange

    Those PDFs definitely help. Unfortunately they are missing dimensions to protect IP/copy write of the standard, but there is this line on a few of them.
    Many PEM® self clinching nuts in this bulletin are dimensionally equivalent to nuts manufactured to NASM45938/1.
    We will purchase the NASPEC and MILSPEC standards associated with as many as possible. 
    QA Engineer - Onshape, Inc.
  • tom_scarincetom_scarince Member, Developers Posts: 41 ✭✭
    Stuff like PEM fastners are begging for their own featurescript that not only creates the part but puts the proper sized interference fit hole in the mating part.  
  • H_d_VH_d_V Member, Developers Posts: 79 ✭✭✭
    edited May 10

    I like to have also micro screws/components.

    For example: the hole feature contains the ISO M1, M1.1, M1.2, M1.4 and M1.8 holes. The standard component Slotted cheese head screw  ISO 1207 lacks these dimensions. This applies also for other (ISO) components.

    So please, sync the component threads with the available threaded holes.


    Henk de V (NL)
  • Jason_SJason_S Onshape Employees, Developers Posts: 140
    H_d_V said:

    I like to have also micro screws/components.

    For example: the hole feature contains the ISO M1, M1.1, M1.2, M1.4 and M1.8 holes. The standard component Slotted cheese head screw  ISO 1207 lacks these dimensions. This applies also for other (ISO) components.

    So please, sync the component threads with the available threaded holes.


    Hi @H_d_V

    Per ISO 1207:2011 for the slotted cheese head screw shows the smallest thread size is M1.6 and then goes to M2 and M2.5.

    We understand that you might be able source these components in these sizes, but they do not follow the current standard and any manufacturer of this hardware in the sizes you listed is not following the standard. The sizes you mention might be following a withdrawn standard, therefore might not be available to others.

    Designing with hardware that may not sourceable currently or in the future is something we are trying to prevent. 
    QA Engineer - Onshape, Inc.
  • Mathieu_GuilmetteMathieu_Guilmette Member Posts: 8 PRO
    It would be great if we could have dowell pins
  • owen_sparksowen_sparks Member, Developers Posts: 1,287 PRO
    It would be great if we could have dowell pins
    @Jason_S we've even got a standard for these "ISO 8734B" :)

    BTW thanks for the Dowty info, you learn something every day.

    Cheers,

    Owen S.

    Production Engineer
    HWM-Water Ltd
  • H_d_VH_d_V Member, Developers Posts: 79 ✭✭✭
    Jason_S said:

    ...

    Per ISO 1207:2011 for the slotted cheese head screw shows the smallest thread size is M1.6 and then goes to M2 and M2.5.

    ...

    Designing with hardware that may not sourceable currently or in the future is something we are trying to prevent. 
    Hi @Jason_S,

    I understand that I've not been clear because I should have written "But please..." instead of "So please...".
    This because I know that the small dims are not present in the ISO. In the former DIN 84 they were present,  so be it...

    So, it looks like that the only way to obtain these screws, bolts etc. - also in future -  is to download or to create (own library configurations).

    Thank you, I understand your answer.


    Henk de V (NL)
  • tom_scarincetom_scarince Member, Developers Posts: 41 ✭✭
    Any chance the native standard parts "source code" will be open-sourced just like featurescipt?  
  • 3dcad3dcad Member, OS Professional, Mentor Posts: 2,154 PRO
    Or feature script equivalent to assembly workspace to create & mount company specific standard parts..  B)  
    //rami
  • owen_sparksowen_sparks Member, Developers Posts: 1,287 PRO
    @3dcad, that sounds awesome.
    Production Engineer
    HWM-Water Ltd
  • mbartlett21mbartlett21 Member Posts: 548 EDU
    @3dcad, that sounds awesome.
    absolutely agree.

    @3dcad
    Make an improvement request
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