#TraditionalCADsucks

brian_brady

Stefan_DMS said:

Is there a case to teach students some of the worst CAD packages as they will likely see them in industry? TBH I would hate having to go from Onshape to "old school CAD". Like totally use Onshape for fundamentals but actually spend a bit of time in SolidWorks or Creo for a couple weeks? 

In order to do that our department would have to maintain and PAY for a license to one of those programs. No sense in switching to free if you still have the bill to pay. 

brian_brady

emagdalenaC2i said:

@brian_brady I don't know if Simsolid have educational plans. Maybe @KenWelch could tell us
But SimScale is free for public projects

I've contacted Ken multiple times before about plans with either the answer that they were working on it or no response at all. Not an issue now since he sold Simsolid to Altair. 

I've tried SimScale and have been less than impressed thus far. Maybe I need to try it again. 

philip_thomas

@brian_brady - As Eduardo said, one of the nice things about Simscale is that it is free for public documents - this is a great way to try-out/learn what is in actuality a very high end multi-physics app.
I also like Simsolid, very innovative.

Stefan_DMS

brian_brady said:

In order to do that our department would have to maintain and PAY for a license to one of those programs. No sense in switching to free if you still have the bill to pay. 

Totally makes sense, free is hard to beat, especially when, in my humble opinion, Onshape does CAD better than most. 

[Deleted User]

thought I had better save before I printed. now I have to rebuild to show views again, two of us waiting as another user wants write access to a part but are waiting for rebuild so I can save and close.   Don't you love "SeldomWorks"

john_mcclary

Found out Solidworks pretends to override a bend radius, after all this time I never double checked the radius after rebuilding (ctrl+q)
No wonder parts have been off every once in a while...
Mystery solved... SW still sucks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HFiwMv5J4o

john_mcclary

Another happy story thanks to Onshape.

Today we had a few new customers fly in to meet our company and hopefuly bring us more work.

They are mostly interested in our spiral chutes, which is the only product we have where we do it exclusivly in Onshape. Because of the speed and accuracy.

Anyways after a long demo in the shop with our demo chutes. My boss hints to them we can draw up anything you need just give us a few parameters and he'll have a drawing for you before we get back to the conference room. So I raised an eyebrow and said challenge accepted. They spit out a few numbers and I casually walked to my desk and calmly crunched them into a spreadsheet. Took the output of that and coppied that into a custom featurescript. Hit commit, went to take a leak while Onshape crunched the numbers.

Came back and did a couple tweaks. Figured I still have plently of time, added a few brakets and chased holes.

Created an assembly drawing with a few dims and print. They walk into the conference room as I pull the print from the printer.

I never could be so cocky with Solidworks. I doubt I could have pack and go'd that fast.

Then we did 3 more revisions at the conference table while they talked.

Thanks Onshape, you made us look GOOD.

emagdalenaC2i

Awesome @john_mcclary

owen_sparks

Nice job, but now how do you bill them for 500 hours engineering time?

john_mcclary

They asked that too as a matter of fact. The look on my boss's face was clasic.

MBartlett21

@john_mcclary
How many lines was the FeatureScript, and how long did it take to generate?

john_mcclary

The featurescript is mostly a bunch of global variables and equations.

Then a few parametric voodo tricks that really only work this flawlessly in Onshape. (I've tried some of these tricks in SW, and it breaks references too easy)

In the end, it is a couple minor tweaks now. I owe a lot to Onshape's support especially lou and pete. They were johnny on the spot with bug fixes and even threw in a few modeling tricks I would never have guessed. Speeding up the model and making it very stable.

john_mcclary

Here is a weird one, doesn't hurt anything, but still a new glitch I haven't seen before.

The affect is different depending on which surface you select to rotate, some are fine.
The center of rotation is even in a weird place off some surfaces... Solidworks... 

Had to record with a cell phone, because the screen capture frame rate didn't show the ghosting affect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L68YM3XR5qY

konstantin_shiriazdanov

DrunkWorks

owen_sparks

StonedWorks

john_mcclary

We usually call it SometimesWorks or SolidQuerks

sebastian_glanzner

That's pretty funny!
In a german forum Autodesk Inventor is often called DIVA.
Especially when it is making trouble 

john_mcclary

FFS... all I want is a 45° dimension SolidWorks....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf3A6Sm9YuQ

john_mcclary

Just lost power due to ice storm, I'm the only one who can keep working cause i'm on Onshape. Still wondering if this a perk. Lol

sebastian_glanzner

@john_mcclary
How do you work without power, do you have a laptop? And how do get internet if the router has no power or do you use mobile internet?

owen_sparks

Tell 'em they can work form home, all they've got to do is lug their CAD stations down the icy paths, into their cars and take over the dining table!

john_mcclary

sebastian_glanzner said:

@john_mcclary
How do you work without power, do you have a laptop? And how do get internet if the router has no power or do you use mobile internet?

mobile



Yea, said ef-it    eucher time

john_mcclary

That time you realize the designer that left a year ago still had parts in his downloads folder... 

If only there were some sort of cloud based CAD that didn't need file management... 

3dcad

@john_mcclary
I think there is! Have you looked at software called 'fusion' which is kind of cloud ish based cad ish software 

(with all respect to fusion users, I'm sure it's piece of software - you can too)

owen_sparks

It's about as cloud based as a submarine. 🦀
That said it does have some good points.

john_mcclary

owen_sparks said:

It's about as cloud based as a submarine. 🦀

LOL it's funny 'case its true

john_mcclary

sw.... Reminds be of the paper jam from Office Space...

Why does it say unsolvable when it is solved!



Edit:
OH figured it out... I changed the stock width to .75" which made the construction line to the origin for centering the sketch zero-length...
I guess I got used to Onshape just not caring if sketch lines are zero length, and just working as you expect.

owen_sparks

I had a colleague mosey by my desk today (as I was writing some simple Featurescript Code) to talk about how he's now recording macros in SW.

Top = Solidworks

Bottom = Onshape

Owen S.

john_mcclary

lol

john_mcclary

Put this one off long enough I suppose...

Begin the download and go home...
Then spend a few hours in the morning installing...
I hate this part...